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    • BrownIconB
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      @Megatron1505:

      Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim  😉

      correct me [any1] if i'm wrong,  but the softness comes from the long sliver of the Zimbabwean cotton fibers & thickness/gauge of the yarns used.

      http://3rdiconfess.tumblr.com

      To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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      • ChrisC
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        @Giles:

        Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......

        Like I said, I'm not an expert by any means.:)  No surprise my conjecture blows.

        And I expect you're right, BrownIcon, though as we've seen, my view is suspect at best.

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        • Megatron1505M
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          Nope, you're right  🙂 (I think)

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • BlackheartB
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            You're right on the mark Brown, longer fibers do make them softer which is why the SR denim is my
            favorite of all time. Samurai does weave tight and at first the denim is very abrasive, especially on my 510's.

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            • GilesG
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              The long staple cotton allows us to weave at a low tension and achieve the weight whilst not compromising the integrity of the weave…

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • BlackheartB
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                That's why IH is the perfect denim, heavy, soft and retains it's size or very close to it.

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                • ALEX1976A
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                  @Blackheart:

                  That's why IH is the perfect denim…

                  amen

                  i think SAMURAI is more a JOKE DENIM or is more happy to try out new things…like a surprise bag;-)

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                  • BlackheartB
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                    Samurai likes to experiment Alex, that's for sure! Nothing wrong with that either but when you're spending
                    that kind of money on jeans you want them to fit and not shrink beyond tag size to the point where they're
                    unwearable. IH is consistent and true to weight.

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                    • ALEX1976A
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                      yeah right blackheart.
                      they made great fabric…..love my s 510

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                      • BlackheartB
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                        Wish mine fit as good as yours do Alex! 🙂

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                        • BrownIconB
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                          LUV IH denim, but if you're not into slim cuts & prefer the likes of a 634,  how many IH pairs can one have?
                          Samurai allows  denimheads to foray & experience different denims on a preferred cut

                          as for proper sizing, one needs to ask questions about denim behavior [eg, re shrinkage] before copping.

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                          To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                          • BlackheartB
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                            Agreed Brown, I did research on the 510's before I bought them and it said to go TTS so I got a 33 waist.
                            After the first cold wash/dry I could hardly button them, pre-wash fit was about an inch and a half larger which
                            was fine but once they were dry they were too small.
                            Aside from IH I've been buying other Japanese raw denims in a 34 and they've all been fine, I'm going to work
                            on the 510's though, see if I can get them to stretch in the waist.

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                            • BrownIconB
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                              @Blackheart:

                              Agreed Brown, I did research on the 510's before I bought them and it said to go TTS so I got a 33 waist.
                              After the first cold wash/dry I could hardly button them, pre-wash fit was about an inch and a half larger which
                              was fine but once they were dry they were too small.
                              Aside from IH I've been buying other Japanese raw denims in a 34 and they've all been fine, I'm going to work
                              on the 510's though, see if I can get them to stretch in the waist.

                              texas cotton will stretch some more down the line.
                              as for now, you just need to flex the waistband.

                              if i may suggest__ wet the top block : pull to stretch the waistband  : button up & stick a hanger or w/e against the waistband [w/c is about your waist size] :  & let dry.

                              always stick the hanger before you soak & keep it till they fully dry.
                              do [this] routine to temper the waistband until the denim soften up from wear & stabilizes

                              http://3rdiconfess.tumblr.com

                              To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                              • Mild7M
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                                I have a question for beautiful_FrEaK..

                                I saw you introduce the SJ42CP heavy Chino's on sufu a few days ago.  Can you tell me more?  When are they available and which Samurai cut is it equivelant or closest to for sizing purposes?

                                Thanks!

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                                • FOXYF
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                                  This is not a jeans - so you can not compare the cut…

                                  For a first indication on sizing and prices go to Rakuten:
                                  http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/2nd/item/sj-sj42cp/

                                  I'm sure there are other Rakuten shops that have them. It's only a question of time until people will show up with pictures and actual measurements.

                                  Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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                                  • Mild7M
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                                    Thanks Foxy, I apreciate your comments.

                                    Point taken regarding chino vs jeans cut.  I guess I was hoping that BF may have nabbed some already and could comment on how they compare to Samurai denim cuts.  I might just have to buy some myself and find out  😉

                                    Mike.

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                                    • B
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                                      damn, I missed a lot of conversation 😉

                                      @Mild7: no I don't own the chinos. They are scheduled for the end of September but you can pre-order them right now.
                                      The official fit pics don't really convince me so far. The fabric looks interesting though 🙂

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                                      • BlackheartB
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                                        Excellent idea Brown, the only problem area is the waistband so I'll do what you suggest. There's still a lot
                                        of starch in the fabric too so once that's washed out I'm sure they'll be much softer and easier to stretch.
                                        Thanks for the great tip! 🙂

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                                        • ALEX1976A
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                                          when i soaked my sammys i put a piece of wood between the waist (Closed bottns)
                                          so u have mor control about shrinkage

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                                          • BlackheartB
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                                            Thanks Alex, I'll find something to put in the waistband, wood, hanger…Going to soak the waistband tonight
                                            so I'll let you all know what happens. 😉

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