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    EdH
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    Joined: 2 Jan 2022

    P.S. 7 is a good age to start brazilian jiu-jitsu. My little one will be going once she's old enough.

    Take the dive...

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      jerkules
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      Joined: 26 Aug 2018

      @goosehd that sucks, I hope the school deal with it appropriately and that it stops immediately.

      My daughter was the target of some pretty insidious bullying by a girl in her class last year when she was 7. The girl in question clearly enjoyed being in charge of her clique. She’d tell lies about my daughter and manipulate the group to exclude her. We could tell my daughter was getting pretty miserable about school, but since it was a slow build kinda bullying, I don’t think my daughter recognised it for what it was. In any case, the school dealt with it incredibly well.

      We had to really hammer home to my daughter that no one who is happy with themselves acts the way this girl did. People that are happy spread joy, people that are miserable spread misery. She totally got it and can now see this type of bullying for what it is, and I hope it’ll be less likely to effect her if she experiences it again.

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        jerkules
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        Joined: 26 Aug 2018

        I don’t know how I’d react if it was a more physical form of bullying though. Dad-rage seems about right I think.

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          Twistlock
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          Joined: 31 Dec 2015

          Glad your daughter is doing ok Dennis @goosehd, can feel your rage. Self defense training is a good thing, we have our son doing it (again) right now. Gives him confidence and us more peace of mind.

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            goosehd
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            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

            Thank all of you for the support! Self defence classes are definitely being discussed for both of the girls with the mindset of being able to get out of dangerous situations and when to use that skillset.

            Agree about humans and the bullying kids face today. It is scary with the way they use technology to torment their peers and it's no longer just at the school yard. No longer is the home the safe place it used to be and my thoughts are to keep both of the kids away from social platforms for as long as possible. That's a bridge I still have to cross.

            I truly feel this kid acting out is due to issues at home. Normal kids would do the "I don't like you, you're not my friend, nobody likes you..." not "I wish you were dead". That alarms me more than anything else.

            Her friends stood up for her and when he saw one of them running for the teacher, he immediately stopped because he didn't want to get in trouble. There is some hope there and I hope that it brings his parents into some difficult conversations.

            I was a victim of bullying in school because I was always smaller than the other boys and empathetic towards people. They saw it as a sign of weakness where I see it as a sign of strength especially today when I wish more people cared about each other. In some ways I think the bullying I saw in school made me a stronger person today.

            Such a difficult concept to work around and I feel for all of you dealing with kids and this topic. It's not ok and it never should be.

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              Jett129
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              @goosehd
              Joined: 17 Aug 2011

              @goosehd My son started Taekwondo at 7,eventually achieving the rank of 3rd degree black belt. Still think it was one of the best things we ever did for him.

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                Twistlock
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                @goosehd
                Joined: 31 Dec 2015

                @goosehd said in Random Rants:

                I was... empathetic towards people. They saw it as a sign of weakness where I see it as a sign of strength especially today when I wish more people cared about each other.

                This!

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                  Matt
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                  Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                  Fuck. That.

                  (NOT AT ALL SFW)

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                    goosehd
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                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                    @Matt "If you ever bully or hurt anybody again I'll come back and butt fuck your father with your mom's headless corpse on this goddamn lawn..."

                    Well that certainly will leave a memory or two... 🙂

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      Matt
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                      As I see it, that’s the ONLY way to deal with a bully. I could be wrong.

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                        goosehd
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                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        I may watch that movie this weekend...

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          Seul
                          @goosehd
                          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                          @goosehd said in Random Rants:

                          Feck it all, she's only 7.

                          Time for her first knife, I'd say! Something small but very, very sharp...

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                            Matt
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                            @goosehd
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                            @goosehd It’s from the second season of True Detective. If you haven’t seen the first season I’d skip the second and watch the first. The second wasn’t as good. Except for that scene.

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                              goosehd
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                              Phone call meeting with the teacher has ended and our concerns are noted. She agrees with our assessment and that the biggest issue is with the words that were used "I wish you were dead". The mother of the child in question doesn't see anything wrong and thinks that things are being blown out of proportion...

                              His actions have been documented and at this point he hasn't been suspended, which from the sounds of it won't do anything because his mother is dismissive of his actions.

                              We may escalate this to the principal level to discuss further...

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                Twistlock
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                                Joined: 31 Dec 2015

                                FFS, "doesn't see anything wrong"...

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                                  Matt
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                                  *see previous comment re: BFing w/ headless corpse…

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                                    Matt
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                                    Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                    Actually, in all seriousness, im sure your community has a FB page. I’d blow that bitch out of the water.

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                                      pechelman
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                                      Joined: 24 Jan 2022

                                      Words matter, but grabbing anyone by the throat is pretty serious and could do very serious damage. In the"real world" they could be charged with assault. Hope this is a wakeup call for the other kid/teachers/parents.

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                                        Mizmazzle
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                                        Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                                        As a teacher, I work with 10 year olds. I’ve been working in elementary schools with grades 3-5 for 15 years now. Nothing makes me angrier than seeing kids target other kids. I’ve seen and heard all sorts of acts of bullying including horrible name calling, hitting, guns brought to school, and this year had a student brandish a blade and threaten another of my students.

                                        Sometimes I reflect back on the sorts of things we used to say and do to each other when we were kids this age. I recall having a bully continually threaten me in 4th grade until it turned into a fight. My father was big on martial arts and boxing, so I was able to defend myself and that particular incident ended there. As I grew older I had to defend myself many times through high school. I’m very grateful to my dad for teaching me those skills, even though I hate fighting.

                                        In schools, kids are coming from all sorts of backgrounds. As teachers we teach our students about bullying and empathy. As important as these skills are, they can take many years for kids to learn, and a lifetime for others. We practice restorative justice and allow the kids the opportunity to talk after these incidents and try and understand how their actions impact others. As has been noted in previous posts, many kids are coming from backgrounds where they are not cared for or given the basic emotional supports necessity to develop empathy. This is the hardest part of working with kids. First hand interaction with the children of societies dark side.

                                        As a teacher, I try and use these hard life lessons as an opportunity to teach empathy but also how to stand up for oneself. It’s so rare that a kid doesn’t experience some sort of conflict. A certain amount is healthy and is an opportunity to learn from.
                                        Dennis your daughter is fortunate to have a loving home and a protective dad that will teach her how to handle these challenges and to defend herself If necessary. Placing hands on another kid is never ok. But we know it happens. I think your approach to teaching self defense is a sound one. Also, learning from these opportunities as a way to understand the needs of less fortunate kids. Because sadly, this is the world we live in.

                                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                          IrishHeart
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                                          @goosehd
                                          Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                                          @goosehd looks like you got to the root of the problem. If mom doesn’t think the language and behaviour was unacceptable, then it makes you wonder about the home environment.

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