IH-666-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo
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The button should meet the hole without too much force or sucking in of the gut. Then it has room to stretch to conform to regular movement. If you need it to stretch just to meet then there’s no stretch left after the button meets the hole and they will always be uncomfortable.
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@Matt I'm similar, I've got a lil fupa going on at the moment and the 888 fits perfectly everywhere but the gut... I need a somewhat shorter rise, but the 888 are still awesome.
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@Jord thanks for your help too. So thats what i was trying to do with the 888s, trying to find a cut or fit that is similar but without the gut punch...what model do you guys reckon kind of achieves that?
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@Matt thanks man, will give it a try!
