IH-666-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@cyclops No, they're not easy to button at all... But it gets easier if you persist. How comfortable are they when they are actually buttoned? That should be your indicator, if you can slide two fingers in the waist band when they're on that's normally my sweet spot, I'd rather be comfortable and have slightly more room especially in the 25oz, though.
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@Jord thanks hmmm i havent been able to button at all
i have used a shoelace to like help wrench/pull it closer. And was close to thinking about buying one of those hand held devices that old people use to close a button through the loop hahah. But like man its so stiff. Like even with pants off trying to button is a challenging. It has stretched a little since i got it, but like how far should i push it is sort of the question. Definitely wouldnt say 2 fingers slide in. So.....i was thinking maybe preserve it as it stands and selling. But its like giving up on the challenge 
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@cyclops I think they are too small. The buttons themselves should be pretty difficult from the start but that’s just a spacing issue.
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@Matt and @daugustway awesome, genuine thanks for the advice! Its good to know what the limits are. Its hard in australia as there arent that many stores to go to try on, so its a bit of a guess trying online etc. So thanks guys!
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I actually wore 888 for a while and went back to 666 because I was never comfortable with the way it fit my gut. Everyone’s different. It’s pretty hard using the “measure a pair you own” method when the style and fit are so different among cuts. Good luck.
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@Matt haha yeah i know what you mean. Some days the 888 sits well, but in some sitting positions its a challenge. But i love it. I was just trying to explore other cuts but i think i bit off more than i could chew with this 666 and 25oz as well!
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The button should meet the hole without too much force or sucking in of the gut. Then it has room to stretch to conform to regular movement. If you need it to stretch just to meet then there’s no stretch left after the button meets the hole and they will always be uncomfortable.
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@Matt I'm similar, I've got a lil fupa going on at the moment and the 888 fits perfectly everywhere but the gut... I need a somewhat shorter rise, but the 888 are still awesome.
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@Jord thanks for your help too. So thats what i was trying to do with the 888s, trying to find a cut or fit that is similar but without the gut punch...what model do you guys reckon kind of achieves that?
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@Matt thanks man, will give it a try!
