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    • MattM
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      Also, why isn’t there a Hip Hop HOF?  I’m assuming there isn’t.  I’ve never actually checked.

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        The best thing you can do with the R&R HoF is pretend it doesn't exist. It's like those ridiculous Rolling Stone "greatest ______ of all time" lists. We're better than they are so their opinions are moot.

        To not have Sonic Youth, Little Feat, and many others in there shows you they don't know their elbows from their assholes when it comes to the subject at hand.

        Think it, be it.

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          @Matt having a Hip Hop hall of fame seems like a disaster waiting to happen. How many rock and rollers (and their fans) have "beef" that gets settled in the streets. Let's have NBA Youngboy or Lil' Yachty get snubbed for best mumble rap of the year.

          This is stereotyping at its finest, but I'll stick my neck out for this one.

          BTW, I love great hip hop and think a lot of the rhyme schemes, delivery, and beats are genius.

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          • MattM
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            That said, give me the Source Awards over the Grammys any day of the week.  Do not get me started on the fucking Grammys.

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              @Matt:

              That said, give me the Source Awards over the Grammys any day of the week.  Do not get me started on the fucking Grammys.

              Hey Matt… I’m interested in hearing your opinion on the Grammys.

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                Doll Parton,Lionel Richie,but not the MC5. KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHERFUCKERS!

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                  @Matt:

                  Sonic Youth is not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.  That is all.

                  Sonic Youth is the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

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                    @neph93:

                    @Matt:

                    That said, give me the Source Awards over the Grammys any day of the week.  Do not get me started on the fucking Grammys.

                    Hey Matt… I’m interested in hearing your opinion on the Grammys.

                    I, too, am interested in hearing your opinions on the Grammys. The most hallowed, objectively, accurate award ceremony of musical arts America has to offer.  😉

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                    • goosehdG
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                      It can’t be too bad…this was nominated for two Grammy’s:

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • MattM
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                        Well, since you asked.  The Grammys ignores a disturbingly large portion of new music in favor of what’s readily accessible on top 40 radio.  Clean, polished radio friendly actors like Green Day and Maroon 5. It celebrates not the quality of musicianship, songwriting or even critical acclaim and instead celebrates music that achieves its popularity from children and low IQ adults.

                        I accept that the Grammys are what they are and not something I’d prefer them being, but as a lover of good music I still hate them.

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @Matt That has to be the most awesome post ever after me posting that tongue in cheek Hanson video!  😃 😃 😃

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          • MattM
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                            Milli Vanilli also won.

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                              @Matt:

                              music that achieves its popularity from children and low IQ adults.

                              I'm giving you a slow clap for this

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                              • goosehdG
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                                …girl you know it’s true…

                                There is a special ring in hell for bringing up that ear worm… 😃

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  Why thank you Matt, that was most edifying. While we’re at it, The Oscars are shite too.

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                                      Obviously but for slightly, and I mean ever so, different reasons.  Quality films are recognized there but it clearly has its own issues with women and people of color.  I also abhor the self aggrandizing of the wealthy and famous.

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                                        @Jett129 I'm in tears  😃 😃 Love you man!

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          …and at least it’s better than the original.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                            @Matt:

                                            @mclaincausey you were 30 minutes from me and didn’t PM!?!?!?

                                            @Matt I would have but we didn't have any transportation and I didn't realize it was that close–we used a car service with a car seat to get to and from the airport but were pretty much stuck in the plaza for the 48 hours Hattie and I were there since we had no car seat or wheels. Next time--and there will be many next times, as lovers of NM, and now we're in love with Santa Fe in particular!

                                            Thinking about the Grammys, it shouldn't surprise anyone that they suck. Hollywood wanted the recording industry to help them figure out what stars to put on the Walk of Fame, and we got "The Recording Academy." An "Academy" that was doing fuck all to advance the actual industry of producing music and recordings (I am sure they do some kind of shit outside the Grammys these days--perhaps the pretentious title was aspirational?). I can't think of a more vacuous origin story, and everything about this silly popularity contest makes perfect sense when you think about it in those terms. And if they're a reflection of what's popular, of course they get everything wrong, cos most people have poor taste.

                                            Same exact story for the Oscars. Is it any wonder that the tastemakers responsible for the garbage that comes out of Hollywood suck at recognizing talent? That was never really the objective in the first place. It was more of an exclusive, masturbatory fraternity (a circle jerk, if you will) of people who thought they were better than everyone else because a lot of people thought that they were.

                                            With the RR HoF, it's just some corporate record executive's pet project, completely arbitrary and without legitimacy or even solid qualification criteria. To be honest, seeing Sonic Youth inducted there would kind of suck the life out of me a bit, because even though they joined a major record label, they embody the statement "corporate rock sucks." It's bad enough to hear that Kim Gordon played with Nirvana.

                                            Fuck em all, they don't know what's up and are a reflection of all of the worst things in popular culture, which is probably why we share such vitriol against them. But, again, we're probably better off pretending they don't exist. It's a shame angst is so fun.

                                            It might be interesting to have awards, rankings, or other popularity contests with a particular point of view or people I respect doing the judging, but at the end of the day, I know what I like and don't need any guidance from the likes of these "academies" and whatever the R&R HoF is (though I do like being exposed to new music here, and there is definitely some good music criticism out there).

                                            Think it, be it.

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