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    • Tago MagoT
      Tago Mago
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      I just wanted to thank everyone for this discussion, @EdH in particular for adding a totally different perspective and introducing a number of aspects, that I either wasn’t aware of or hadn’t considered. I still think Brexit was a bad idea 😉

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      • I
        IrishHeart
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        @Tago-Mago agreed, except for the bit about water which has gone right over my head 🙂

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        • ARNCA
          ARNC
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          @IrishHeart it’s not good for water to go right over your head, at least not for a prolonged period 😃

          “His thoughts were red thoughts and his teeth were white.“

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          • I
            IrishHeart
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            @ARNC haha! Good observation, although at 6’4 it has to be pretty deep!

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            • louisboscoL
              louisbosco
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              @Giles said in Brexshit:

              AND, the result of the vote was advisory not mandatory.

              this very point. it also would've career suicide for anyone to go "nah, we're not going to follow the referendum" and DC didn't want to be the person to invoke article 50 so he resigned and said some one else can deal with this..

              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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              • T4920T
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                On the subject of Brexit, from an IH business point of view, what was the biggest ramification that came about as a result of it?
                And if any, what were the positives?

                @Giles @Alex

                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  Overnight, we did not just ship a package to The EU, we had to export it. So although there is a free trade agreement between The EU and Japan and a similar one between The UK and Japan, all non-UK-produced goods attract 12% duty, so upon entry into The EU, our shipments were subject to duty and also VAT on the sum of the declared price plus the duty. So we either shipped to EU and let the customer deal with that shit (something they had not had to do before) or ship and pay the duty and the tax ourselves, in both cases with the high probability that the shipping company would also charge us, or the customer additional "handling" fees. We elected to do the latter and shield the customer from the grief. Then if a customer needs to return the goods, there is no sensible way that we can claim a refund for the tax, the duty or additional fees. The single worst example being a customer who ordered 2 pairs of Wesco boots and returned both pairs - revenue zero, cost of sale €500.

                  No positives at all.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • T4920T
                    T4920
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                    @Giles that sounds awful!
                    I assume that's how/why IH Germany came about, to serve the EU market whilst circumnavigating these export fees?

                    “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      In part yes.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        TeflonDon
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                        Seriously, I must say that the way IHUK has handled this is absolutely brilliant for me as a costumer.

                        I hope it pays off - my recent experience certainly confirms the advantage that the IH way holds in regard to costumer service.

                        I’ve been looking into ordering a custom made leather jacket from the UK. These are the hassles that IH spares me:

                        • The Scottish seller do list prices excluding VAT. I am able to add the VAT, but I have to look up the tariff. And if I want to hit the end price correctly I have to add them in the right order, as the VAT also applies to shipping.
                        • Apart from that I need to pay a handling fee to the carrier. About 20 euro.
                        • The handling in customs can take up to six days.
                        • Should I return the jacket I have to to the paperwork to reclaim the taxes myself.

                        To add insult to injury, I had the Scots send me leather samples. That cost a very fair price of five quid. But they too were held up in costumes, meaning I’d have to pay two euros I VAT and a handling fee of 20 euros to get the sample. Product samples are exempt from tariffs and VAT, but you still have to pay the handling fee after providing proof that the samples are worthless. I promptly returned them.

                        I’ve ordered a reloved IH jacket instead - hassle free. Keep up the good work, guys, it is appreciated and brings me back as a costumer.

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