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[Seul]

[Kasi]

Lol [emoji38]

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[Jett129]

Just curious at to what denim they used for the vest,or is it one of those if I tell you I have to kill you? Hells Angels are ,sometimes, referred to as Local 81…The 8 for the H in Hells and the 1 for the A in Angels...Therefore IH’s numbers would be 98.

[Giles]

21oz superblack…

We did a T-shirt one year with 98 as the main logo

[Jett129]

Very Cool! Any pictures of it? Maybe we need an IH/98 patch.

[Kasi]

98 em interesting…

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[Giles]

@Jett129:

Very Cool! Any pictures of it? Maybe we need an IH/98 patch.

I'd need to trawl through all our old t-shirt pics, which I probably cant be bothered to do….Sorry 

[Boras]

Like the new paper bags, very cool! What does it say?

[Alex]

AIANHĀTO. (Iron Heart)

[Boras]

Thanks!

[louisbosco]

can someone please tell me more about the SR denim? in particular, a comparison to the UHR.

[Kasi]

I wanna know too…

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[Giles]

Same thing.  H called it SR, I called it UHR…..Sorry, that the story was not a shit load more interesting 

[louisbosco]

thanks!

[Bfd70]

Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

[sabergirl]

1” of stretch is in there, no matter what size you are. If the denim is placed under pressure, it may stretch that amount.

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[neph93]

@Bfd70:

Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

Good questions… I'd say the stated 1" waist shrinkage is more of an upper limit, stated for safety's sake. I have had XHS in w35, w34 and w33 and have consistently got 0.5-0.7" shrinkage. Never have I had 1". I tend to soak in very warm water and/or wash afterwards. You can dig in the XHS threads for mine and others documentation. They will stretch an inch for sure.

You're right that shrinkage can be estimated as a percentage of length... but when stretch works the same way, it's all relative.

In short, yes, you should order somewhere around your desired waist, possibly a little under, rather than over.

[Bfd70]

Thanks for the replies. Are you both soaking prior to first wear?

[neph93]

@Bfd70:

Thanks for the replies. Are you both soaking prior to first wear?

I didn't on my first pair (666-XHS, w35), because they were really tight in the leg. The strategy was to stretch them first before the wash. It sort of worked but I ended up having to wash them earlier than planned because  a two year old with rota-virus happened (man that was a lot of puke). The struggle to relax the thing after that was real.

My current two pairs (IH-888-XHSib, w33 and my brand new IH-888-XHS, w34), I soaked to get it all out first. Same deal with my PIH10ANT. At the end of the day, they are going to shrink when subjected to heat, water and agitation and that is going to happen at some point. Likewise, they are going to stretch when you wear them. You might as well get all that out of the way first.

[Bfd70]

Sort of nerve racking. I want to add 25oz to the rotation this year but it’s a lot to drop and then be dissatisfied with the results…