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[Stuart.T]

I don't check that frequently, but was surprised to see it.

[neph93]

@Stuart.T:

I don't check that frequently, but was surprised to see it.

It was from quite some time ago… I believe the red flannel lining is the same as was used on the IHV-21 which would dates it to some time in 2015. Exclusive collab and not many made.

[Giles]

A lot of the London and Surrey Chapters buy IH and regularly pop down here.  They've been to a couple of our parties too.  Believe it or not, a thoroughly nice, courteous and polite bunch of chaps, always amazingly charming with Paula…..

I thought I'd put my foot in it one day when the President of the London Chapter asked me if he could have a jacket we were sampling, I said "we don't make samples for fat fuckers", there was an awkward silence, then he pissed himself laughing

[Seul]

[Kasi]

Lol [emoji38]

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[Jett129]

Just curious at to what denim they used for the vest,or is it one of those if I tell you I have to kill you? Hells Angels are ,sometimes, referred to as Local 81…The 8 for the H in Hells and the 1 for the A in Angels...Therefore IH’s numbers would be 98.

[Giles]

21oz superblack…

We did a T-shirt one year with 98 as the main logo

[Jett129]

Very Cool! Any pictures of it? Maybe we need an IH/98 patch.

[Kasi]

98 em interesting…

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[Giles]

@Jett129:

Very Cool! Any pictures of it? Maybe we need an IH/98 patch.

I'd need to trawl through all our old t-shirt pics, which I probably cant be bothered to do….Sorry 

[Boras]

Like the new paper bags, very cool! What does it say?

[Alex]

AIANHĀTO. (Iron Heart)

[Boras]

Thanks!

[louisbosco]

can someone please tell me more about the SR denim? in particular, a comparison to the UHR.

[Kasi]

I wanna know too…

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[Giles]

Same thing.  H called it SR, I called it UHR…..Sorry, that the story was not a shit load more interesting 

[louisbosco]

thanks!

[Bfd70]

Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

[sabergirl]

1” of stretch is in there, no matter what size you are. If the denim is placed under pressure, it may stretch that amount.

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[neph93]

@Bfd70:

Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

Good questions… I'd say the stated 1" waist shrinkage is more of an upper limit, stated for safety's sake. I have had XHS in w35, w34 and w33 and have consistently got 0.5-0.7" shrinkage. Never have I had 1". I tend to soak in very warm water and/or wash afterwards. You can dig in the XHS threads for mine and others documentation. They will stretch an inch for sure.

You're right that shrinkage can be estimated as a percentage of length... but when stretch works the same way, it's all relative.

In short, yes, you should order somewhere around your desired waist, possibly a little under, rather than over.