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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Jeanmoreau
    Joined: 19 May 2022

    @schraiber:

    @Jeanmoreau:

    @schraiber:

    I tried these on at Self Edge SF, figuring I might be 33 or 34 based on the measurements. The 33 could button but was pretty tight and not super pleasant, while the 34 was pretty comfortable right then and there. I'm inclined to go with the 34 but I've heard that this fabric has a ton of stretch–-will they necessarily stretch out a ton? Do I absolutely need to go with the smaller waist and suffer for a while to avoid them becoming so stretched that they don't stay up without a belt?

    Go for 33. I wish I had.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    So you went for the comfortable size and it stretched out enough that it wouldn't stay up or at least didn't feel good?

    Yes. Literally with a 33/34 situation as well.

    I don’t have a lot of experience with ih so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I am a non belt wearer like you. I assume Jett wears belts.

    I think thighs are the most important thing to size for.
    If your thighs are ok in 33 I’d go with them. Waist stretches up to 2 inches if you need it to. That’s what I’ve heard said by many people.

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    last edited by 9 Nov 2022, 02:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      sabergirl
      見習いボス
      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

      I’ve regretted not being comfortable in my IH from the get-go. Always end up selling off the smaller pairs, personally.

      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      last edited by 9 Nov 2022, 02:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Jett129
        見習いボス
        Joined: 17 Aug 2011

        You are 100% right about the belts,as they are my favorite accessory!

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          Nik
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 12 Nov 2020

          +1 for the larger and more comfortable size

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            weftyarn
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 8 Nov 2020

            I think everything has been said and that it’s probably a matter of personal preference.

            I personally went for tight waist over comfortable start and did not regret that decision for a second.
            The waist did stretch out fairly quickly. You can accelerate that process by doing a handful of squats.

            Going tight allows the top block to really conform to your body (which it will, the 21OZ has a lot of give).

            I can see why people go comfortable though. If you’re wearing a belt and don’t care too much about the waist stretching out a bit, go for it. Just don’t make the mistake of assuming „the fit will stay like this“. I’ve wasted a few pairs on that assumption when I first got into Raw.

            Use it or lose it.

            last edited by 9 Nov 2022, 07:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              Jepp… comfort is highly subjective, and the sweet spot in the comfort/fit ratio differs. I’ve had more more pairs I’ve needed to flip because I didn’t account for stretch and they endes up top big, than the other way. Given your description of body shape etc, I would go w33. A few days discomfort and years of a satisfactory fit is better than a few days comfort and an unsatisfactory fit, long term.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                Paddy
                Joined: 27 Oct 2022

                Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.




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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @Paddy:

                  Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.

                  Incredible work. That must be one of the best looking pairs of worn 21oz I have ever seen. And I’ve seen MANY.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    hoppy_IPA
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 24 Feb 2019

                    @Paddy just terrific.  those look great!

                    last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 14:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      jerkules
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                      Dang I need a pair of these, thanks @Paddy .

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                        weftyarn
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                        As one of my favorite Bavarian comedians Karl Valentin famously said: "Es ist schon alles gesagt, nur noch nicht von allen" (Everything has already been said, just not by everyone). To put it short: I too must say these are absolutely stunning @Paddy

                        Use it or lose it.

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                          pexel
                          Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                          Looking for some sizing guidance.  I’ve measured two existing pairs I have, based on the IH sizing method.

                          Iron Heart 633S-18 tag size 33, waist 32.  I’ve had this for over a year, it’s a snug fit but not uncomfortable
                          Iron Heart 633S-142 tag size 31, waist 31.  This is a relatively new pair, but very very very snug on the verge of uncomfortable.

                          With the above, I’m leaning towards the 888 in size 33 in the hope that the waist will stretch an inch and not shrink after a soak.  Is this the right size, particularly based on the 633S-18 measurement above?

                          last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 07:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            sabergirl
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                            The measurements you’ve posted don’t tell the full story of what makes a fit uncomfortable for you. Take the measurements of each dimension in the top block (for me, most important is waist, back rise, and thigh and compare the 21oz to a pair you want them to feel like. 21 oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist. I think 33 or 32 would be what you want, depending on thigh room needed.

                            Def don’t size down to 31 again, sounds like that wasn’t comfy for you.

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                            last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 13:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              pexel
                              Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                              thanks sabergirl!

                              My 633S-18 are a super comfy jean.  Have measured once again:

                              Waist - 32"
                              Front - 10 ½"
                              Back - 15 ¼"
                              Thigh - 11"

                              Based on these measurements, it's clear that the 888 is a much roomier fit so I'm not thinking a tag size 32" is probably the best?

                              last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 22:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                sabergirl
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                If you’re measuring the IH way, looks like you could do 32 no problem, and have a roomy comfy fit from the get-go. That would be my personal choice. However, considering the stretch in the 21oz, I expect there are some who would say you’re going to want the 31, especially if you’ll still have an inch of room to play with in the thigh. Bear in mind that the waist is also going to hit you a full inch higher on your body, where you’re probably skinnier. I know this isn’t being much of a help, but there ya go.

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                                last edited by 20 Nov 2022, 01:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Jeanmoreau
                                  Joined: 19 May 2022

                                  I’m definitely not skinnier an inch up. That’s where my belly is.

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                                  last edited by 20 Nov 2022, 01:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Perpetual_beta
                                    Haraki san Student
                                    Joined: 17 May 2022

                                    @pexel post a photo in your 18s.

                                    Don’t have 18s but the 21s def stretch and waist will end up tag + 1”

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                                    last edited by 20 Nov 2022, 13:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      pexel
                                      Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                                      @Perpetual_beta:

                                      @pexel post a photo in your 18s.

                                      Don’t have 18s but the 21s def stretch and waist will end up tag + 1”

                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                      Here's my IH collection, apologies for the poor pics
                                      The 3 images in the top row are the 633S-18 in size 33 and the bottom 3 images are the 633S-142 in size 31.  The 6633S-142 are a very tight fit with very little room in the front rise.  Do you think the 888S-21 in size 32 will be too loose?

                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 09:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                        Perpetual_beta
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        Joined: 17 May 2022

                                        @pexel Here is my take on it with all the inter web warnings. I would go with 32, they will be 33s. Fit is personal but looks as if you need size in the thighs.
                                        Thighs don’t stretch much or not at all.

                                        If they fit generous you can always wash a bit warmer or do mild spin to shrink, but going in the other direction is difficult.

                                        Others may know better….

                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          weftyarn
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                                          Today marks the 285th wear day. Nothing beats the comfort of 21OZ. Perfect Friday pants!

                                          Use it or lose it.

                                          last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 08:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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