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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    Jepp… comfort is highly subjective, and the sweet spot in the comfort/fit ratio differs. I’ve had more more pairs I’ve needed to flip because I didn’t account for stretch and they endes up top big, than the other way. Given your description of body shape etc, I would go w33. A few days discomfort and years of a satisfactory fit is better than a few days comfort and an unsatisfactory fit, long term.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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      Paddy
      Joined: 27 Oct 2022

      Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.




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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @Paddy:

        Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.

        Incredible work. That must be one of the best looking pairs of worn 21oz I have ever seen. And I’ve seen MANY.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          hoppy_IPA
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 24 Feb 2019

          @Paddy just terrific.  those look great!

          last edited by 14 Nov 2022, 14:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            jerkules
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 26 Aug 2018

            Dang I need a pair of these, thanks @Paddy .

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              weftyarn
              Iron Heart Deity
              Joined: 8 Nov 2020

              As one of my favorite Bavarian comedians Karl Valentin famously said: "Es ist schon alles gesagt, nur noch nicht von allen" (Everything has already been said, just not by everyone). To put it short: I too must say these are absolutely stunning @Paddy

              Use it or lose it.

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                pexel
                Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                Looking for some sizing guidance.  I’ve measured two existing pairs I have, based on the IH sizing method.

                Iron Heart 633S-18 tag size 33, waist 32.  I’ve had this for over a year, it’s a snug fit but not uncomfortable
                Iron Heart 633S-142 tag size 31, waist 31.  This is a relatively new pair, but very very very snug on the verge of uncomfortable.

                With the above, I’m leaning towards the 888 in size 33 in the hope that the waist will stretch an inch and not shrink after a soak.  Is this the right size, particularly based on the 633S-18 measurement above?

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                  sabergirl
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                  Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                  The measurements you’ve posted don’t tell the full story of what makes a fit uncomfortable for you. Take the measurements of each dimension in the top block (for me, most important is waist, back rise, and thigh and compare the 21oz to a pair you want them to feel like. 21 oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist. I think 33 or 32 would be what you want, depending on thigh room needed.

                  Def don’t size down to 31 again, sounds like that wasn’t comfy for you.

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                  last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 13:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    pexel
                    Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                    thanks sabergirl!

                    My 633S-18 are a super comfy jean.  Have measured once again:

                    Waist - 32"
                    Front - 10 ½"
                    Back - 15 ¼"
                    Thigh - 11"

                    Based on these measurements, it's clear that the 888 is a much roomier fit so I'm not thinking a tag size 32" is probably the best?

                    last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 22:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      sabergirl
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                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                      If you’re measuring the IH way, looks like you could do 32 no problem, and have a roomy comfy fit from the get-go. That would be my personal choice. However, considering the stretch in the 21oz, I expect there are some who would say you’re going to want the 31, especially if you’ll still have an inch of room to play with in the thigh. Bear in mind that the waist is also going to hit you a full inch higher on your body, where you’re probably skinnier. I know this isn’t being much of a help, but there ya go.

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                      last edited by 20 Nov 2022, 01:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Jeanmoreau
                        Joined: 19 May 2022

                        I’m definitely not skinnier an inch up. That’s where my belly is.

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                          Perpetual_beta
                          Haraki san Student
                          Joined: 17 May 2022

                          @pexel post a photo in your 18s.

                          Don’t have 18s but the 21s def stretch and waist will end up tag + 1”

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                            pexel
                            Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                            @Perpetual_beta:

                            @pexel post a photo in your 18s.

                            Don’t have 18s but the 21s def stretch and waist will end up tag + 1”

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                            Here's my IH collection, apologies for the poor pics
                            The 3 images in the top row are the 633S-18 in size 33 and the bottom 3 images are the 633S-142 in size 31.  The 6633S-142 are a very tight fit with very little room in the front rise.  Do you think the 888S-21 in size 32 will be too loose?

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                              Perpetual_beta
                              Haraki san Student
                              Joined: 17 May 2022

                              @pexel Here is my take on it with all the inter web warnings. I would go with 32, they will be 33s. Fit is personal but looks as if you need size in the thighs.
                              Thighs don’t stretch much or not at all.

                              If they fit generous you can always wash a bit warmer or do mild spin to shrink, but going in the other direction is difficult.

                              Others may know better….

                              last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                weftyarn
                                Iron Heart Deity
                                Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                                Today marks the 285th wear day. Nothing beats the comfort of 21OZ. Perfect Friday pants!

                                Use it or lose it.

                                last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 08:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                  JohnM
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 7 May 2014

                                  With a natural 35.5" waist, I'm torn between size 35 and 36 in the 21 oz. 888S.  Suggestions appreciated.

                                  In terms of fit preferences, I'm hoping they end up comfortable and slightly relaxed (but not sloppy or loose) as opposed to tight or trim.

                                  Thanks,
                                  John

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                                    Anesthetist
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 14 May 2011

                                    @JohnM:

                                    With a natural 35.5" waist, I'm torn between size 35 and 36 in the 21 oz. 888S.  Suggestions appreciated.

                                    In terms of fit preferences, I'm hoping they end up comfortable and slightly relaxed (but not sloppy or loose) as opposed to tight or trim.

                                    Thanks,
                                    John

                                    IMO I would pay more attention to the rise and leg then, the waist will stretch for you with time.

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                                    IG: bluehandsslim

                                    last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 22:17 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      schraiber
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 9 Sept 2022

                                      Bought a pair at SESF today. Agonized over sizing, see my earlier post from when I first tried em on a couple weeks ago. After much consultation with the sales rep, went with the 33. If it stretches to fit like the 34 it'll be perfect.

                                      Just waiting on the hem now. Expect some pics soon!

                                      last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 23:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Punatnik
                                        The Unwoven
                                        Joined: 14 Feb 2021

                                        @JohnM:

                                        With a natural 35.5" waist, I'm torn between size 35 and 36 in the 21 oz. 888S.  Suggestions appreciated.

                                        In terms of fit preferences, I'm hoping they end up comfortable and slightly relaxed (but not sloppy or loose) as opposed to tight or trim.

                                        Thanks,
                                        John

                                        I am 35.5 as well.
                                        Size 35 works well for me.

                                        last edited by 26 Nov 2022, 00:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          JohnM
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 7 May 2014

                                          I was in Self Edge today.  They were out of the 888S 21oz. in size 36, but I tried on the same size in the 888S-14oz. – the fit was perfect.  While tempted, I'm still leaning toward the 21oz. (or even the heavier UHR).

                                          For those familiar with both denims, would sizing be the same (i.e., 36) or should I size down to 35 in the 21oz. due to the likely stretch?

                                          last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 01:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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