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Revisiting Old Classics - Should We/Shouldn't We?

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    Maynard Friedman
    Joined: 3 Jan 2013

    I only want things that are so rare they haven't ever come into existence.

    Alternatively I only want to see a re-run of something I missed out on first time around but NOTHING ELSE!

    Or perhaps I just want a re-run of everything now that my mum has finally let me choose my own clothes.

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      Finn666
      Joined: 20 Jan 2011

      finally i came along to read the whole thread (which was created by @Chris btw.) and have to say that @bushmonkey @Clint_D @Anesthetist is where it´s at imo…

      still i would love to know and hear what @madmonday @PETEROCK1 @DrPat @Daveo @Jestre have to say about this!?

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        madmonday
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 13 Oct 2009

        @Chris is a good mod despite his choice in avatars, hahahaha

        @Finn666 I've nothing but love for you; however, I am sitting this discussion out.

        head high, middle finger higher

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          Finn666
          Joined: 20 Jan 2011

          @madmonday i think i know why 😉 …thanks for getting back to brother.

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            georgeel
            Joined: 27 Feb 2011

            Don't throw away your forces digging in the Oldies & Goldies cemetery!
            BUT
            I deeply respect all the mf who have different opinions, of course…

            IH-888S-142OD

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              Appfaff
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 11 Oct 2013

              @den213:

              Very well written, Appfaff!

              Thanks!  I enjoy seeing the classics remade, but in different ways - make the red 51 a work shirt, turn the brown 38 into a western, heck - turn the MKII into a single pocket oxford cut… it let's us relive the past while still moving into the future.

              @Seul:

              Great: now I want an old Porsche.

              If only… http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/porsche/911/1807858.html - old school cool, right here.

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                Megatron1505
                見習いボス
                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                Old is the new new  😞

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  Finn666
                  Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                  ^we talking bout shirts and flannels here Gav! -.- @Megatron1505 …hahaha 😉

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                    Megatron1505
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                    That and my creaking joints  😠

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      DrPat
                      Iron Heart Deity
                      Joined: 9 Oct 2009

                      I was asked for my opinion on this topic so here it is….

                      I'm not a collector.  I'm not into stamps, coins, baseball cards, glass dolls, My Little Pony, or anything else that will clutter my apartment.  The main reason I buy Ironheart instead of comparable brands such as Flat Head and Sugar Cane is that it fits me the best.  I buy Ironheart instead of mass-market brands because of quality and design and because it's not made in a sweatshop.

                      I don't mind if classics are re-released.  In fact, sometimes I'm upset I didn't wait longer because the second and third iterations are often better than the original.  The deck jacket is a classic example of this.  I know that it's impossible, but it would be great to know when Ironheart is planning to release a product with continuous improvements over several years.

                      It's been proven that scarcity strongly influences decision making (read Influence: Science and Practice by Robert Cialdini if you are interested in this sort of thing).  This means it's smart business practice for Giles to label products as endangered.  I'm more likely to fill out "the form" or sit by my computer waiting for a product to go live if I know that only a few items are available.  But my motivation for buying something is that I like it for what it is, not because I want to complete my collection or show off to other members of the forum that I'm one of the few lucky ones to snag a rare item.

                      Product that I would like to see re-issued: IHSH-61 (the military shirt).  Without the lettering, of course.

                      Product that should have died a horrible death: IHSH-08.  I bought the second iteration of this shirt.  Soap gets stuck in the fabric and makes white streaks and lines.  I have to put it on the rinse cycle 4 times to get all the soap out.  Any type of abrasion (even from the gentle cycle of my washing machine) is visible.  And the tight fit in the armpits makes it necessary to wash this shirt more than usual.

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                        Chris
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                        @Finn666:

                        finally i came along to read the whole thread (which was created by @Chris btw.)

                        Actually, Giles started it, then I combined a couple of earlier and relevant posts from another thread into it, which is why Finn's is first.

                        I probably made things more confusing, to be honest…

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          It is a problem when combining threads that sometimes the time-stamp defined merge alters screws up the actual logic of the thread…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            xtcclassic
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 13 Feb 2012

                            @Giles:

                            Looks like IHSH-16 in natural….

                            @UnTucked:

                            Either way… I think my pic and your pic prove that we need a white western in production, lol

                            Ahem… If we're talking about bringing back classics, I vote for this one first.

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                              Clint_D
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 5 Jun 2011

                              I agree with that 100%.  A revisited IHSH-16 would be fantastic.

                              ATX IH Hoarder

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                                Finn666
                                Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                                for all that matters, i´m cool with re-running "simple" shirts such as the IHSH-33, IHSH-44, IHSH-16, IHSH-27, IHSH-46, IHSH-66, IHSH-67, etc. …it´s just when it comes to flannels and those crazy cool patterns, i would love to leave them extinct when declaring extinct.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  IHSH-33 it is one of the feckin staples of course we're going to rerun the thing….

                                  And the 44 and 16 and 27 and 46 and 67, were/are declared extinct.

                                  You can't have your cake and eat it....

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    OK.  After a lot of consideration, this is where we are.

                                    Firstly, this is Haraki's brand, he can do what the fuck he wants, how he wants and when he wants.  Would I have voted for a re-release of a red/black or green/black buffalo.  No I would not (because I think they're generally overdone and boring), but he decided he wanted to do it and frankly it is not up to me to say no.  Sometimes when I deem something to be really important, I'll "have a chat" with him, but when it comes to buffalo check, it simply is not important enough (in my opinion) to have the chat.  He's re-released the purple/black buffalo for later this year, I wish he had not but hey, shit happens and yes, I will stock them.

                                    Will we continue to release Ombre's and Buffalo's?  You bet, but if the idea comes from me, it will be new colourways, but as I said above, H can do what he wants.

                                    A point was made by someone in the thread above which touched me most, and I'll paraphrase.  "We don't need H churning out easy stuff, we need him to be sat in the corner with a very large spliff and told to get creative".

                                    For the record though.  Why is it OK to release the IHM-04 and extinct it, then release the IHM-08 and extinct it and then the IHM-10 and extinct it?  They're all deck jackets but with continued (in our eyes) improvements.  To date, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think we have re-released a shirt that was exactly the same as a previous version…...

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      Jordan23
                                      Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                                      Amen[emoji1319]

                                      Enjoy ya addiction!

                                      AE

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                                        hajduk
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 14 Jul 2010

                                        Re Amen!

                                        "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                                          browniemcghee
                                          Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                                          Nicely said.

                                          Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

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