Revisiting Old Classics - Should We/Shouldn't We?
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It's clothing, not Fabrege eggs. The value is in the quality, not the rarity. If remaking an old item will make customers happy, then remake it. I don't care if it's a deadstock IHSH-35 or one fresh off the factory floor, I just want one.
The customer base even five years ago was different and smaller than it is now. Hell, for that matter, Giles was running IHUK by himself out of his basement, and now it's expanded and relocated a couple of times and has four full time workers (and yes, I know I'm being generous to count Giles as a "worker"). So the analysis of which things to make extant then was different than it is now, and an item like the IHSH-20 that everyone gets all wobbly kneed about might never have stopped production if it were introduced in 2015 instead of 2010.
Bottom line, I don't think there's any reason for any item to ever stay extinct, other than it being physically impossible to remake.
I agree
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I only want things that are so rare they haven't ever come into existence.
Alternatively I only want to see a re-run of something I missed out on first time around but NOTHING ELSE!
Or perhaps I just want a re-run of everything now that my mum has finally let me choose my own clothes.
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finally i came along to read the whole thread (which was created by @Chris btw.) and have to say that @bushmonkey @Clint_D @Anesthetist is where it´s at imo…
still i would love to know and hear what @madmonday @PETEROCK1 @DrPat @Daveo @Jestre have to say about this!?
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@madmonday i think i know why
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@den213:
Very well written, Appfaff!
Thanks! I enjoy seeing the classics remade, but in different ways - make the red 51 a work shirt, turn the brown 38 into a western, heck - turn the MKII into a single pocket oxford cut… it let's us relive the past while still moving into the future.
Great: now I want an old Porsche.
If only… http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/porsche/911/1807858.html - old school cool, right here.
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Old is the new new
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^we talking bout shirts and flannels here Gav! -.- @Megatron1505 …hahaha
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That and my creaking joints
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I was asked for my opinion on this topic so here it is….
I'm not a collector. I'm not into stamps, coins, baseball cards, glass dolls, My Little Pony, or anything else that will clutter my apartment. The main reason I buy Ironheart instead of comparable brands such as Flat Head and Sugar Cane is that it fits me the best. I buy Ironheart instead of mass-market brands because of quality and design and because it's not made in a sweatshop.
I don't mind if classics are re-released. In fact, sometimes I'm upset I didn't wait longer because the second and third iterations are often better than the original. The deck jacket is a classic example of this. I know that it's impossible, but it would be great to know when Ironheart is planning to release a product with continuous improvements over several years.
It's been proven that scarcity strongly influences decision making (read Influence: Science and Practice by Robert Cialdini if you are interested in this sort of thing). This means it's smart business practice for Giles to label products as endangered. I'm more likely to fill out "the form" or sit by my computer waiting for a product to go live if I know that only a few items are available. But my motivation for buying something is that I like it for what it is, not because I want to complete my collection or show off to other members of the forum that I'm one of the few lucky ones to snag a rare item.
Product that I would like to see re-issued: IHSH-61 (the military shirt). Without the lettering, of course.
Product that should have died a horrible death: IHSH-08. I bought the second iteration of this shirt. Soap gets stuck in the fabric and makes white streaks and lines. I have to put it on the rinse cycle 4 times to get all the soap out. Any type of abrasion (even from the gentle cycle of my washing machine) is visible. And the tight fit in the armpits makes it necessary to wash this shirt more than usual.
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OK. After a lot of consideration, this is where we are.
Firstly, this is Haraki's brand, he can do what the fuck he wants, how he wants and when he wants. Would I have voted for a re-release of a red/black or green/black buffalo. No I would not (because I think they're generally overdone and boring), but he decided he wanted to do it and frankly it is not up to me to say no. Sometimes when I deem something to be really important, I'll "have a chat" with him, but when it comes to buffalo check, it simply is not important enough (in my opinion) to have the chat. He's re-released the purple/black buffalo for later this year, I wish he had not but hey, shit happens and yes, I will stock them.
Will we continue to release Ombre's and Buffalo's? You bet, but if the idea comes from me, it will be new colourways, but as I said above, H can do what he wants.
A point was made by someone in the thread above which touched me most, and I'll paraphrase. "We don't need H churning out easy stuff, we need him to be sat in the corner with a very large spliff and told to get creative".
For the record though. Why is it OK to release the IHM-04 and extinct it, then release the IHM-08 and extinct it and then the IHM-10 and extinct it? They're all deck jackets but with continued (in our eyes) improvements. To date, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think we have re-released a shirt that was exactly the same as a previous version…...
