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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      @bob_z said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

      Did IH ever did a piece in Broken Twill?

      https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/category/146/spring-summer-2023-bottoms

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • alexpupinA
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        @Giles said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

        In a left hand twill, the warp gets tightened during the weaving process, thus the result is typically a smoother face to the fabric.

        Is the described warp tightening intentional when weaving a LH twill or is the tightening only due to differences in a LH loom construction compared to a RH one?
        In other words, is LH twill fabric purposely weaved with its characteristic stiffness and lighter nuance in mind? (I love my 19L :-))

        Patience is the virtue of faders

        IH-888-UHR-YA
        IH-888S-19L
        IH-634S-A
        IH-666-XHS
        IH-666S-SLB
        IH-634S-SLB

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        • GilesG
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          It's purely to do with the way the warp twisted and the direction of the weave, the twist hgets tighter in LHT and looser in RHT.....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • alexpupinA
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            Ah, yes. I didn’t take into account the yarn twist and the effect of weaving in opposite directions.
            Thanks @Giles !

            Patience is the virtue of faders

            IH-888-UHR-YA
            IH-888S-19L
            IH-634S-A
            IH-666-XHS
            IH-666S-SLB
            IH-634S-SLB

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            • KarolK
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              @Giles are all IH denims 3x1 twill or you change to 2x1 with lighter oz?
              It would be so cool to have the info in the https://www.ironhearteu.com/our-denims/ or in the detail of product description. And really the description would be cool for all fabrics, you have the 1x1 plain weave duck, chambray, flannel, ...
              It would be super educational.

              Favorite:
              IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
              IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
              IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
              IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                @Karol said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

                @Giles are all IH denims 3x1 twill or you change to 2x1 with lighter oz?
                It would be so cool to have the info in the https://www.ironhearteu.com/our-denims/ or in the detail of product description. And really the description would be cool for all fabrics, you have the 1x1 twill duck, chambray, flannel, ...
                It would be super educational.

                I think the 12 oz wabash is a 2x1

                Think it, be it.

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                • KarolK
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                  @mclaincausey Thanks for pointing out the error. I pasted from the earlier spot in the post and got twill out of 1x1 plain weave 🤦

                  Favorite:
                  IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                  IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                  IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                  IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                  • GilesG
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                    I will add as I can.....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • KarolK
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                      I just realized there is a thread for this - https://www.ironhearteu.com/forum/topic/2523/chambray-vs-mock-twist-vs-regular-fabric
                      And You @Giles made an awesome intro and introduced official notation as well!
                      Thanks for taking it into consideration. You guys were already pointing it out in some special situations like the IHSH-335-BLK where its diligently stated it is herringbone. It's awesome to have unified naming conventions.

                      Favorite:
                      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                      • denim-dawgD
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                        @Giles Excellent information! Cheers

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                        • KarolK
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                          This forum just keeps on giving in terms of introducing to the whole process.
                          Thanks @Giles for this awesome recommendation - WEAVING:
                          CONVERSION OF YARN TO FABRIC

                          Favorite:
                          IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                          IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                          IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                          IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                          • JeansCatJ
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                            If you open the close pictures of jeans on this site... It looks opposite. Left hand looks more fluffy, right hand is smoother.

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                            • KarolK
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                              I finally found a link to a free .pdf version - enjoy!

                              WEAVING: CONVERSION OF YARN TO FABRIC

                              Favorite:
                              IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                              IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                              IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                              IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                              • goosehdG
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                                @Karol …being in IT, I am assuming you checked the site. I clicked on your link and freaked out when it was counting down to let me in…

                                I don’t know if this thing is common, and just want to check.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • KarolK
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                                  @goosehd Yep, I seen it as well at the first attempt, or if you refresh the page cache with ctrl+F5. It looked to me like cloudflare cashing, nothing to be worried about. The page is actually hosted by some university in India - Government Polytechnic Patna-7

                                  Favorite:
                                  IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                  IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                  IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                  IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                  • todyT
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                                    @goosehd It's a common thing, to protect the servers from too many simultaneous downloads.

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      I hate taking our forum members to random sites via links and will need to get an ok on this…@Giles @Alex

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • KarolK
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                                        @goosehd said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

                                        I hate taking our forum members to random sites via links and will need to get an ok on this…@Giles @Alex

                                        we can always download that .pdf directly into the forum. But my thinking with the external link was that we would avoid potential copy right claims by not hosting the file by ourselves.

                                        Favorite:
                                        IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                        IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                        IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                        IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                        • AlexA
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                                          I think its fine, @goosehd

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            @Alex Thank you.

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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