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A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim

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    bob_z
    Joined: 19 Sept 2019

    Did IH ever did a piece in Broken Twill?

    I can resist anything but temptation.

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      EdH
      Iron Heart Deity
      @bob_z
      Joined: 2 Jan 2022

      @bob_z They're doing all the core jeans cuts in broken twill in this season's run, in both indigo and indigo-overdyed-black, iirc.

      Take the dive...

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        @bob_z
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        @bob_z said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

        Did IH ever did a piece in Broken Twill?

        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/category/146/spring-summer-2023-bottoms

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          alexpupin
          Haraki san Student
          @Giles
          Joined: 2 Feb 2019

          @Giles said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

          In a left hand twill, the warp gets tightened during the weaving process, thus the result is typically a smoother face to the fabric.

          Is the described warp tightening intentional when weaving a LH twill or is the tightening only due to differences in a LH loom construction compared to a RH one?
          In other words, is LH twill fabric purposely weaved with its characteristic stiffness and lighter nuance in mind? (I love my 19L :-))

          Patience is the virtue of faders

          IH-888-UHR-YA
          IH-888S-19L
          IH-634S-A
          IH-666-XHS
          IH-666S-SLB
          IH-634S-SLB

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            It's purely to do with the way the warp twisted and the direction of the weave, the twist hgets tighter in LHT and looser in RHT.....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              alexpupin
              Haraki san Student
              Joined: 2 Feb 2019

              Ah, yes. I didn’t take into account the yarn twist and the effect of weaving in opposite directions.
              Thanks @Giles !

              Patience is the virtue of faders

              IH-888-UHR-YA
              IH-888S-19L
              IH-634S-A
              IH-666-XHS
              IH-666S-SLB
              IH-634S-SLB

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                Karol
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                @Giles are all IH denims 3x1 twill or you change to 2x1 with lighter oz?
                It would be so cool to have the info in the https://www.ironhearteu.com/our-denims/ or in the detail of product description. And really the description would be cool for all fabrics, you have the 1x1 plain weave duck, chambray, flannel, ...
                It would be super educational.

                Favorite:
                IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                  mclaincausey
                  見習いボス
                  @Karol
                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                  @Karol said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

                  @Giles are all IH denims 3x1 twill or you change to 2x1 with lighter oz?
                  It would be so cool to have the info in the https://www.ironhearteu.com/our-denims/ or in the detail of product description. And really the description would be cool for all fabrics, you have the 1x1 twill duck, chambray, flannel, ...
                  It would be super educational.

                  I think the 12 oz wabash is a 2x1

                  Think it, be it.

                  last edited by 20 Mar 2023, 16:49 K 1 Reply Last reply 20 Mar 2023, 16:59 Reply Quote 1
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                    Karol
                    啓蒙家
                    @mclaincausey
                    Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                    @mclaincausey Thanks for pointing out the error. I pasted from the earlier spot in the post and got twill out of 1x1 plain weave 🤦

                    Favorite:
                    IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                    IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                    IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                    IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      I will add as I can.....

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        Karol
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                        I just realized there is a thread for this - https://www.ironhearteu.com/forum/topic/2523/chambray-vs-mock-twist-vs-regular-fabric
                        And You @Giles made an awesome intro and introduced official notation as well!
                        Thanks for taking it into consideration. You guys were already pointing it out in some special situations like the IHSH-335-BLK where its diligently stated it is herringbone. It's awesome to have unified naming conventions.

                        Favorite:
                        IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                        IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                        IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                        IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                        • denim-dawgD
                          denim-dawg
                          Iron Heart Deity
                          @Giles
                          Joined: 20 Oct 2021

                          @Giles Excellent information! Cheers

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                            Karol
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                            This forum just keeps on giving in terms of introducing to the whole process.
                            Thanks @Giles for this awesome recommendation - WEAVING:
                            CONVERSION OF YARN TO FABRIC

                            Favorite:
                            IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                            IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                            IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                            IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                            last edited by 11 Apr 2023, 10:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • JeansCatJ
                              JeansCat
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 1 Nov 2023

                              If you open the close pictures of jeans on this site... It looks opposite. Left hand looks more fluffy, right hand is smoother.

                              last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 12:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Karol
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                                I finally found a link to a free .pdf version - enjoy!

                                WEAVING: CONVERSION OF YARN TO FABRIC

                                Favorite:
                                IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                                last edited by 14 Dec 2023, 11:37 goosehdG 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2023, 11:59 Reply Quote 0
                                • goosehdG
                                  goosehd
                                  Mod Squad
                                  @Karol
                                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                  @Karol …being in IT, I am assuming you checked the site. I clicked on your link and freaked out when it was counting down to let me in…

                                  I don’t know if this thing is common, and just want to check.

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                  last edited by goosehd 14 Dec 2023, 11:59 K todyT 2 Replies Last reply 14 Dec 2023, 12:11 Reply Quote 1
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                                    Karol
                                    啓蒙家
                                    @goosehd
                                    Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                                    @goosehd Yep, I seen it as well at the first attempt, or if you refresh the page cache with ctrl+F5. It looked to me like cloudflare cashing, nothing to be worried about. The page is actually hosted by some university in India - Government Polytechnic Patna-7

                                    Favorite:
                                    IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                    IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                    IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                    IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                                    last edited by 14 Dec 2023, 12:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • todyT
                                      tody
                                      啓蒙家
                                      @goosehd
                                      Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                      @goosehd It's a common thing, to protect the servers from too many simultaneous downloads.

                                      last edited by 14 Dec 2023, 12:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                      • goosehdG
                                        goosehd
                                        Mod Squad
                                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                        I hate taking our forum members to random sites via links and will need to get an ok on this…@Giles @Alex

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                        last edited by 14 Dec 2023, 12:12 K 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2023, 12:13 Reply Quote 0
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                                          Karol
                                          啓蒙家
                                          @goosehd
                                          Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                                          @goosehd said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

                                          I hate taking our forum members to random sites via links and will need to get an ok on this…@Giles @Alex

                                          we can always download that .pdf directly into the forum. But my thinking with the external link was that we would avoid potential copy right claims by not hosting the file by ourselves.

                                          Favorite:
                                          IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                          IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                          IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                          IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

                                          last edited by Karol 14 Dec 2023, 12:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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