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    IHSH-454-BRN - 11oz Military Serge Western Shirt
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      hugothecowboy
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      Forgive me but for those of us who ride motorcycles we always appreciate a little longer sleeves. This new sizing calibration looks a little disappointing but hopefully i can make it work. Im usually a size L looking at the chart i might have to go to a size S but then the sleeves wont work. I’m surprised Iron Heart as a brand moved to smaller sizing for sleeve length.

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        Masaz
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        Same as the previous two. I loved IH for those reasons, and thought the sleeve length was part of the motorcycle heritage design language, which I appreciated as a rider and also as someone taller. But that seems to have changed over the last couple years. Have had to or will pass on several products I really wanted, including this shirt, which is a bummer. Good for my wallet I guess.

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        • northsouthdenimguyN
          northsouthdenimguy
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          I don’t know. Seems like the shirt should appeal to even more people, especially in the larger sizes, other than someone who’s already an XS. Looks like I’d have to size down to a double XL, although the sleeves seem short on paper. I’d be really surprised if they actually fit that way. I’ve yet to try on an Iron Heart shirt where I thought the sleeves were too short.

          @selveldgesteps

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          • John GaltJ
            John Galt
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            If you should like to tuck your shirts or should want to even occasionally tuck any of them, the overall length will be too short to do so when wearing a 555 or 666 unless you’re a person that is extremely vertically challenged. Being of a shorter stature myself at 5’-6”, I personally don’t wear high rise jeans like the 888, but that cut may be the only one that can tuck these recalibrated shirts if the measurements of these recent FW26 releases are the new standard. I personally find it difficult to keep the previous size XS shirts tucked in a 555 or 666 when getting shorter than 28.0”.

            No one’s happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.

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            • John GaltJ
              John Galt
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              The other thing to note with the recalibrated western shirt dimensions in terms of overall length (if they should all continue as the recent FW26 releases), this shortened length leaves zero room for potential shrinkage when washing even if wearing as untucked depending - particularly for anyone taller than me at 5’-6”. Sleeve length is another item to note, but this is also a factor of the shoulder dimension which appears to had somewhat increased for the given sizes. But the bigger shoulder dimension also will make the chest wear larger of which that dimension increased by approx. 1.5” per given size. Fingers crossed that future releases trend back towards what has been a given for the western shirt typical dimensions over the past 6+ years I’ve been purchasing.

              No one’s happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.

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              • AskAxelA
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                As someone over 6'2 that tucks every shirt I wear into my pants/jeans, I do find the shorter length on many of the new shirts to be disheartening and has led to me having no interest in buying any. I hope this changes with new shirts on the horizon!

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                Just Another Denim Fanatic

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                • John GaltJ
                  John Galt
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                  The work shirts are a shorter, wider, roomier cut. Now the recalibrated western shirt dimensions are running similar to the work shirts. I personally found IH based on their slim fitting western style that were long enough to tuck and were one of the few brands that provided a size XS and the typical chest measurement around 19.5-20.0” worked well along with the slim waist and opening dimensions so not a lot of excess fabric when tucking. Again, hoping this is temporary resizing for the westerns - fingers crossed.

                  No one’s happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.

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                    Phil_NYC
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                    IH has a tough job trying to find that happy compromise so that their shirts fit the largest cross section of its customer base. That said, this new sizing is a bummer for me. XL westerns fit like they were made for me. Now the shoulders and chest are larger, yet shorter in both body and sleeve. Not sure why IH would essentially want to push westerns to basically the work cut just for the sake of reverting back to some historical ideal. The difference between the 2 cuts was such a nice nuance of the brand. Oh well, at least my wallet will be happy.

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                    • samoS
                      samo
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                      How far back was it that the westerns were sized like this?

                      WTB: Medium brown N1 (IHM-35-BRN) / Medium navy tanker (IHM-47-NAV)

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                        V-P
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                        Yeah, I'm really disappointed too. Fingers crossed it's only this shirt and not the new standard.

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                        • hammertoe1H
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                          @V-P yeah, I’d be really bummed if the next run of 33’s and such followed this chart. IH tops and westerns specifically have always fit me better than absolutely anything else out there, and this size chart is essentially unwearable for me

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                            Jett129
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                            I’ve been buying/wearing IH for 15 years,and since day one people,myself included,have been complaining about the measurements. I for one am thrilled to see these measurements,and actually had to do a double take. Over the years,I’ve managed to curate a wonderful collection of IH shirts that fit me quite well. Did I measure out of some shirts that I really wanted…yes,but the IHUK crew has always done their best to help when I needed a certain measurement,and sometimes,It’s just not going to work.

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                            • northsouthdenimguyN
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                              Not to beat a dead horse, but you know I will… 😂

                              Save for being an XS, I’m not really sure how these larger runs affect people all that much. I know we all have our preferred measurements, but I’d be surprised if any two Western shirts I’ve bought, whether 3XL or 4XL, have ever matched up across the board.

                              There’s always been a little give-and-take with shoulders, sleeves, chest, and length. At least that’s been my experience.

                              @selveldgesteps

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                              • PointmanP
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                                I own IH shirts from M-XL that fit me. I believe I’d be a Small in this one from the size chart. I wish I could just blindly order a Large and it always fits but it’s never worked that way. This doesn’t really change the calculus for me. Have to read the size chart and ask questions.

                                Wants:
                                32-34
                                666S-IB
                                634S-IB

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                                • samoS
                                  samo
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                                  The issue for me is not that I have to move to a different tag size, its that the overall fit has changed to a shorter boxier fit. Whereas before the fit was perfect, now there is a tradeoff between ideal length or ideal width.

                                  WTB: Medium brown N1 (IHM-35-BRN) / Medium navy tanker (IHM-47-NAV)

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