IHSH-454-BRN - 11oz Military Serge Western Shirt - Brown
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I guess it's one of those can't please everyone situations with the sizing. I am looking at the size chart and thinking wow that is awesome. I usually have to get SP-Large due to 3XL having too small a chest/shoulders for me.
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When wearing a size XS in most IH shirts over the past 6 years and then a recalibration sets the sizes larger without adding a size XXS, the only option is to size up to a shirt that fits way too big. And with the shorter length and sleeves for the given sizes from previous dimensions, the option to shrink the shirt is off the table since it will then be too short. Not complaining - and I get it - IH has to make changes to sell items if that is where the numbers are - and I’m just one customer (but with a very average slim build).
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As long as the sleeves don’t keep ending up short everything seems ok. If there’s a little bit of room on chest or body, people can always have it taken in and better yet keep that fabric folded inside the shirt in case you ever needed to let it out again
+0.6” - 0.7” of length on each tag size would be great..
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Regarding the re-structured sizing on this shirt—
Is it “intended” for your normal-ish size to be the correct choice, just with a more relaxed fit? Like, is it a new, more relaxed pattern? Or essentially the same pattern just with different tagged sizes? Forgive me if I’m not wording this question the right way.
I’m normally a L or XL in westerns (and everything from IH) and despite knowing I should just trust the size chart, I have some odd mental block towards buying a medium, as it just feels “incorrect”.
I know chest measurement doesn’t tell the whole story with how a shirt fits, and a lot falls onto the pattern and underarm/shoulder mechanics, which IH has always grasped better than any other brand out there.
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@hammertoe1 as long as you use the measurements as a guide, the shirt should always fit the same. It doesn’t matter what the tag size is if you go by the measurements.
I have shirt tag sizes from medium to 2xl because I use the measurements to pick the shirt that will best fit me. If the measurements don’t work for whatever reason, I sometimes have to skip a release. Although on occasion, the measurements don’t work but I have been able to work with the IHUK crew to find one that will work.
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Long body and sleeves is what made Iron Heart my go-to. I'd be a Large in this using the chest measurement but the 2X sleeves and length are optimal. This could be a game changer for me. It's funny I made a video about this very issue today with a Freenote shirt. I'll be sending an email to the guys to see if they can maybe find a XL that works?
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Forgive me but for those of us who ride motorcycles we always appreciate a little longer sleeves. This new sizing calibration looks a little disappointing but hopefully i can make it work. Im usually a size L looking at the chart i might have to go to a size S but then the sleeves wont work. I’m surprised Iron Heart as a brand moved to smaller sizing for sleeve length.
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Same as the previous two. I loved IH for those reasons, and thought the sleeve length was part of the motorcycle heritage design language, which I appreciated as a rider and also as someone taller. But that seems to have changed over the last couple years. Have had to or will pass on several products I really wanted, including this shirt, which is a bummer. Good for my wallet I guess.
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I don’t know. Seems like the shirt should appeal to even more people, especially in the larger sizes, other than someone who’s already an XS. Looks like I’d have to size down to a double XL, although the sleeves seem short on paper. I’d be really surprised if they actually fit that way. I’ve yet to try on an Iron Heart shirt where I thought the sleeves were too short.
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If you should like to tuck your shirts or should want to even occasionally tuck any of them, the overall length will be too short to do so when wearing a 555 or 666 unless you’re a person that is extremely vertically challenged. Being of a shorter stature myself at 5’-6”, I personally don’t wear high rise jeans like the 888, but that cut may be the only one that can tuck these recalibrated shirts if the measurements of these recent FW26 releases are the new standard. I personally find it difficult to keep the previous size XS shirts tucked in a 555 or 666 when getting shorter than 28.0”.
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The other thing to note with the recalibrated western shirt dimensions in terms of overall length (if they should all continue as the recent FW26 releases), this shortened length leaves zero room for potential shrinkage when washing even if wearing as untucked depending - particularly for anyone taller than me at 5’-6”. Sleeve length is another item to note, but this is also a factor of the shoulder dimension which appears to had somewhat increased for the given sizes. But the bigger shoulder dimension also will make the chest wear larger of which that dimension increased by approx. 1.5” per given size. Fingers crossed that future releases trend back towards what has been a given for the western shirt typical dimensions over the past 6+ years I’ve been purchasing.
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The work shirts are a shorter, wider, roomier cut. Now the recalibrated western shirt dimensions are running similar to the work shirts. I personally found IH based on their slim fitting western style that were long enough to tuck and were one of the few brands that provided a size XS and the typical chest measurement around 19.5-20.0” worked well along with the slim waist and opening dimensions so not a lot of excess fabric when tucking. Again, hoping this is temporary resizing for the westerns - fingers crossed.
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IH has a tough job trying to find that happy compromise so that their shirts fit the largest cross section of its customer base. That said, this new sizing is a bummer for me. XL westerns fit like they were made for me. Now the shoulders and chest are larger, yet shorter in both body and sleeve. Not sure why IH would essentially want to push westerns to basically the work cut just for the sake of reverting back to some historical ideal. The difference between the 2 cuts was such a nice nuance of the brand. Oh well, at least my wallet will be happy.
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How far back was it that the westerns were sized like this?
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Yeah, I'm really disappointed too. Fingers crossed it's only this shirt and not the new standard.
