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Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    Bofex2121345
    Joined: 18 Aug 2021

    I had the Ezo deerskin western in medium; and felt the only thing I didn’t like is that the chest feels restraining, not even to the extent that I can pop em. So this time around I got the pale baby in large, it’s fitting me like an over shirt, but that’s how I like my shirts, and I feel 100% happy with the fit.

    Bottom line is I feel like you need to be comfortable wearing it, otherwise you might end up leaving it in the closet and letting it go at some point at a lower price.

    And the guys are right horse leather in general doesn’t open up much.

    Just some perspective from another guy.

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      Bofex2121345
      Joined: 18 Aug 2021

      @Pipeboss713

      Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

      last edited by 29 Jun 2022, 01:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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        Pipeboss713
        Haraki san Expert
        Joined: 4 Jan 2021

        @Bofex2121345:

        @Pipeboss713

        Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

        Gosh that looks awesome.
        Thank you for sharing and for the pic
        I lift weights myself and im getting close to 160 w/ a 40” chest.
        Thinking hard about returning and going for a large.
        The medium looks so sharp on me IMO but it’s pretty restricting and I worry if that will loosen up any

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        “He who guards his mouth, protects his life”
        Proverbs 13:3

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          Olly
          Joined: 15 Feb 2021

          @goosehd:

          @Olly what’s your input and experience with this shirt re:sizing and/or button pops?

          Hello mate, I go for my standard Western sizing - XL - and the only time the buttons have popped is when I've been riding at 70mph with only two buttons snapped on the bike.. so I just do an extra button up and we're good.

          Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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            Daniel San
            見習いボス
            Joined: 2 May 2020

            @Olly
            sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
            I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

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              Olly
              Joined: 15 Feb 2021

              @Daniel:

              @Olly
              sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
              I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

              Hello mate, for the lookbook I always wear the L samples, but generally I prefer an XL in the westerns. The exception was the serge military one - the XL swamped me. HMU if you ever have any concerns about sizing. I'm very much XL in the pale rider

              Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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                Daniel San
                見習いボス
                Joined: 2 May 2020

                ah ok, good to know.
                thank you Olly

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                  jonnyindy
                  Joined: 5 May 2022

                  2nd wear, and loving it. Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

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                    Dmart
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                    That looks perfect on you. Enjoy this thing of a beauty!

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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      @jonnyindy:

                      Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

                      100% my pleasure…...

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        AdamC
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 12 Jan 2018

                        @jonnyindy Wow, that is a thing of beauty! What a fit

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                          goosehd
                          Mod Squad
                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                          Seconded:  Outstanding fit and enjoy!

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            jonnyindy
                            Joined: 5 May 2022

                            Thanks Guys!  To be honest, I went back and forth a bit on this sizing for this one. Initially I ordered a  2XL after trying on Giles’ XL at the trunk show in LA at GAH. It fit well, but I really wanted to layer it like this. So after much back and forth with the IH team (they promised I didn’t register on the PITA scale…) I returned the 2XL and got this 3XL, and it’s perfect 👍🏻

                            For reference, I’m 6’1”, 210lbs and I’m wearing a 36 waist in those 301S’.

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                              Nik
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                              Fit looks great. Seems like the right size.

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                                Seul
                                Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                Fucking awesome lad! Perfect fit, and those sunnies suit you well btw. So many people wear the wrong'uns, it's become a(nother) pet peeve  😃 😎

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                                  Bofex2121345
                                  Joined: 18 Aug 2021

                                  @jonnyindy Congrats on the fit man! Got it spot on! Looking awesome. And I bet you feeling comfy. 🙂

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                                    Pipeboss713
                                    Haraki san Expert
                                    Joined: 4 Jan 2021



                                    Kept the medium
                                    No layering With western shirts. But it looks good w/ 11oz tee

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                                    “He who guards his mouth, protects his life”
                                    Proverbs 13:3

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                                      Kirk
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      Joined: 16 Jun 2021

                                      Hey @goosehd , I’m curious to hear about your fit experience with the big buck and pale rider. I’ve combed through both threads and you picked up an xl in both, right?

                                      I also own the big buck (size L) and I’m considering snagging the pale rider too. When I made my big buck purchase I requested a specific measurement so the good folks at ihuk gave me the dimensions of the entire shirt. Below are the measurements for my big buck size L vs the pale rider L. The L big buck sizing seems to correspond more closely with the XL pale rider. Seeing how some are on the fence about sizing, I was curious to get your thoughts. For reference, I’m a L in IH westerns and work shirts. My L big buck seems a tad too big in the shoulders and sleeve length. So I’m wondering if the L pale rider will work. I don’t intend to layer it. Just a t-shirt or thermal underneath.

                                      Appreciate your insights. You look good in both. From my eye, I can see how the pale rider might be more narrow in the shoulders and chest.

                                      Big buck
                                      Shoulder: 18.7"
                                      Length: 30.2"
                                      Chest: 22.6
                                      Waist: 20.7"
                                      Opening: 21.1"
                                      Sleeve: 26.9"

                                      Pale rider
                                      Shoulder: 17.6”
                                      Length: 30.1”
                                      Chest: 21.8”
                                      Waist: 20.8
                                      Opening: 21.3
                                      Sleeve: 26.3

                                      @Pipeboss713 i think you made the right choice sticking with your M.

                                      we’re trying our best

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                                        Pipeboss713
                                        Haraki san Expert
                                        Joined: 4 Jan 2021

                                        @Kirk:

                                        Hey @goosehd , I’m curious to hear about your fit experience with the big buck and pale rider. I’ve combed through both threads and you picked up an xl in both, right?

                                        I also own the big buck (size L) and I’m considering snagging the pale rider too. When I made my big buck purchase I requested a specific measurement so the good folks at ihuk gave me the dimensions of the entire shirt. Below are the measurements for my big buck size L vs the pale rider L. The L big buck sizing seems to correspond more closely with the XL pale rider. Seeing how some are on the fence about sizing, I was curious to get your thoughts. For reference, I’m a L in IH westerns and work shirts. My L big buck seems a tad too big in the shoulders and sleeve length. So I’m wondering if the L pale rider will work. I don’t intend to layer it. Just a t-shirt or thermal underneath.

                                        Appreciate your insights. You look good in both. From my eye, I can see how the pale rider might be more narrow in the shoulders and chest.

                                        Big buck
                                        Shoulder: 18.7"
                                        Length: 30.2"
                                        Chest: 22.6
                                        Waist: 20.7"
                                        Opening: 21.1"
                                        Sleeve: 26.9"

                                        Pale rider
                                        Shoulder: 17.6”
                                        Length: 30.1”
                                        Chest: 21.8”
                                        Waist: 20.8
                                        Opening: 21.3
                                        Sleeve: 26.3

                                        @Pipeboss713 i think you made the right choice sticking with your M.

                                        Thanks for sharing the pics and measurements!
                                        Really makes me feel great about getting the medium
                                        I don’t plan on laying either but I can comfortably fit a 11oz Iron Heart tee underneath
                                        It’s still molding and flexing to my body so I imagine little more stretch

                                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                        “He who guards his mouth, protects his life”
                                        Proverbs 13:3

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                                          goosehd
                                          Mod Squad
                                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                          @Kirk You are correct in both of my shirts are XL and I love them both.  When thinking about sizing you have to consider that these are hand made and that each shirt may have minor differences in sizing.

                                          When I purchased the Big Buck from IH, I was lucky and placed my order with enough XL’s in stock that I requested a specific measurement in both chest and shoulder, and as usual they nailed it.  Out of the bag it is one of my best fitting shirts I own and for the best part, the material is very forgiving and stretches/forms at ease with wear.  My only small gripe is that the cuff’s were just a little tight to wear buttoned wearing a watch.  That only lasted for about a week’s worth of wear and now fits wonderfully.

                                          Re: the pale rider.  I was on the fence about buying it, hesitated about purchasing another leather item, and lost out on buying it from IH.  The moment I did know it was too late, I started working through the retailer list to see if anyone had one in stock.

                                          The shop out of Vancouver had one and I immediately purchased it.  However, since they only had one I couldn’t pick and choose regarding specific measurements.

                                          Out of the bag, it is tighter in the shoulders, just about perfect in the chest, and the cuffs are perfect.  The material is stiff and needs wear to get it to drape correctly.  As mentioned previously, I’m 10/11 wears and the results get better with every wear.

                                          Both of these shirts will tell stories with time and break in, shape, patina, to each individual.  It’s part of the fun and a great way to recall your own stories and adventures.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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