Football (Soccer)
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@Tago-Mago Foooook...yep 30 plus minutes is a long fucking time.

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To sit back against a team like Argentina and invite pressure like that was a disaster waiting to happen.
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Yeah benching Gordon and to a lesser extent Rice were egregious decisions. The team has to take some blame but sitting back like that was just weird. Spain keeps the ball even with a lead and hopefully that will be the difference against Argenfifa in the finals.
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@mclaincausey almost criminal to allow a free header when you’re playing 5 at the back
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I am not a soccer fan, but I wonder about England's belief that they will achieve anything beyond semi-finals (other than happenstance). I would be keen to hear from more learned colleagues why they ever should have been compared to a team such as Spain.
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Can’t park the bus that long.
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In football even with significant talent disparity you almost always have a chance. But you have to get to the game first. I’m just gutted they went out in such a weak way. I think the entire viewership saw the writing on the wall when they benched Gordon.
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Brazil – 5 titles (1958, 1962, 1970, 1994, 2002)
Germany – 4 titles (1954, 1974, 1990, 2014)
Italy – 4 titles (1934, 1938, 1982, 2006)
Argentina – 3 titles (1978, 1986, 2022)
France – 2 titles (1998, 2018)
Uruguay – 2 titles (1930, 1950)
England – 1 title (1966)
Spain – 1 title (2010)Other than Uruguay (who also have two titles), seems like other teams have figured things out in the last six decades.
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Titles don't mean much, considering the teams change... Brazil is a perfect example of that.
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What we missed in both boxes last night

Instead he took players he never trusted to play at all!
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@mclaincausey said in Football (Soccer):
In football even with significant talent disparity you almost always have a chance.
Football is almost a coin flip. If you crunch the numbers, the team which should win only wins ~55% of the time. The scores don't climb high enough to allow skill to express itself in the result. (Compare to tennis, for instance, where the better player wins ~80% of the time, because over hundreds of points in a match the skill disparity can come out.)
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Taking attack minded players off and replacing them with defenders, gave England no out ball and invited pressure.
Between scoring in the 55th minute and Argentina’s second goal in the 92nd minute, England had 12% possession. That is an absolutely damning statistic.
Argentina’s two centre backs were on yellow cards, but rather than keeping the ball and continuing to attack them, England handed the initiative over to them.
Cabo Verde and Egypt both showed how frail Argentina were defensively and scored twice each by attacking them.
Tuchel has much to explain.
