IHSB-PR-NAT - Iron Heart x Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

[northsouthdenimguy]

I’m sure this has been answered somewhere, but after reading/scanning through 1,315 posts… and at the risk of losing my IH Deity status here’s my simple question.

From what I’m seeing, the original release was May 30, 2022, and then there was a restock on March 27, 2023 using the same leather. Were there any actual differences between the first stock and the restock?

I understand the one releasing on December 2 is a little different, but I’m just trying to get the history straight on the PR

As for the question about mine earlier, I just wasn’t sure if it was from the original or the restock

[indigostiff]

@northsouthdenimguy I have the old version, which features much more of a sueded, raw veg tanned leather. That makes it much stiffer, seemingly, than the new one. I absolutely wear it as an overshirt, at most with a western shirt underneath. I an 5'11" 188 lbs and wear an XL. The sleeves are still fitted after two years of wear, as are the shoulders. The "new" version appears to have much softer, almost textured leather, which isn't to my taste, and doesn't look as stiff / structured as the old one.

[denim-dawg]

@FlavourFade Hi mate, good to hear from you! I usually wear L in western and work, but am glad this was XL, cause it feels like it adjusted to my body after 390 days wear (so far), and also it was good to have a little room under it so I could layer it when I liked to, and could wear it in 43 degrees C in the South African Christmas holiday. For me, this size is really versatile, and has made it possible to use it in so many ways. Cheers

[Shane B]

@Ross said in IHSB-PR-NAT - Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

IHSB-PR-NAT Restock
Tuesday, 2 December 2025
16:00 - 16:05 UTC

IHSB-PR-NAT Restock
IRON HEART GERMANY will also restock this
Tuesday, 2 December 2025 17:00 o'clock

[Shane B]

@Luke_is_back said in IHSB-PR-NAT - Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

Would it be available IH Germany?

Yes, we will!

[Karol]

@ShopatIronHeart Are the photos in the store web and on forum showing the new version? I remember that the plan for the new one was a bit darker color from the get go. Have I missed something?

[Ross]

@Karol Photos are still showing the sample verison, production versions are being photographed as we speak and will be uploaded to website and forum asap

[Karol]

@Ross thanks!
Looking forward to it!

[FlavourFade]

@denim-dawg thanks for taking the time and answering me, mate I feel also like sizing up would be the way if I get it

[dwaynelum]

@ShopatIronHeart is it possible for the expert team there to shorten the body length? Or would one need to go to a leather specialist?

[Bailey]

@dwaynelum Hi, this would not be something we would be able to facilitate at IHUK I'm afraid. I would reach out to a reputable tailor to discuss the possibilities before potentially committing.

[Luke_is_back]

@Bailey @AdamJ May i ask, why IH change leather from the previous one to Blattwerk?

[dwaynelum]

Thanks @Bailey. Spoke with a local saddler who said this would be straight forward for them.

[AdamJ]

@Luke_is_back the leather from Italy is not a good enough standard. There has been multiple instances in the past of the hides Simmons Bilt received being rejected

[Bane011]

@Ross Hi Ross, did you try these on mate? You leaning towards 3x or 4x? Definitely more fitted look for this beauty right? Thank you

[kojimastreets]

@northsouthdenimguy what size do you wear in your PR bud?

[Go For Chill]

I feel like I'm in the same boat, -ish. I like the freshness of the color it comes as new. However, I am a bit worried about the color that it ages to being too yellow. It's also a bummer that it doesn't seem to take any antiquing or darkening in the wear areas. It seems to just stay one consistent color like a chrome-tanned leather would. Sort of the polar opposite of how denim shows its high-wear areas. @denim-dawg 's shirt is badass, but I'm eager to see one that hasn't been worn under other shirts.

I don't care about the eco-friendly aspect of natural leather. I like it for how it ages, antiques, and shows its story in color.

BUT, I've had my PR money set aside for a little over a year, so there's a good chance I'll knee-jerk that "checkout" button and buy it just because. My only struggle is that the wife said I'm only allowed one leather jacket purchase this season and I'm currently missing a black leather jacket from my closet altogether, so this has be worth forgoing a black leather jacket for another year.

@deanclean said in IHSB-PR-NAT - Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

I originally thought I cared about the difference between the two leathers but at the end of the day I know I’m going to buy it anyway so who cares! .

[Luke_is_back]

@AdamJ @Shane-B In those new photos the PL looks almost white, is it true?

Why is there a difference in prices, IH UK vs IH Germany?

[Bane011]

@Luke_is_back Also the shirt looks different on IH Germany site. There are no two seams on the back of the shirt going down the length of the shirt. It’s plain and seamless on the German site.

[Bane011]

Hey guys is IH Germany showing photos of the older version?