Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?
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Have you ever offered tapering denim? You obviously have skilled people for the lifetime repairs and excellent hemming services. I can get my 21oz and lower handled locally but then I lose the chain stitched hem. And she has told me not to bring her the 25oz.
So when I see large hem's on them I'm inclined to leave them. Thanks
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@CosmoSix5 They have not and do not.
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This was a great discussion when this has come up before:
@neph93 said in IH-666-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo:
Thanks guys! Maybe I'll wear them with a cuff for a while before I decide to chop them. It makes me nervous talking about hamming a $400 pair of pants [emoji51]
IG - @leatherdenimboots
Hi, Brock.
Just to echo the wisdom already laid down here, these do need hemming. It's a standard job to do on premium denim that only comes in one length. It's also a relatively simple job for a decent tailor/seamstress. Nothing to worry about. The denim will also settle and soften and that will calm the indigo sea a bit. I would also consider a warm soak to eliminate shrinkage. Do this before hemming.
If you really feel the leg opening is too wide for you then tapering is a drastic step and a harder job. I believe that if you choose this, you should find a denim specialist for it. There's been a number of discussions on this forum about it, so recommendations should be easy to find.
That being said, heavily tailoring cuts is also something that's a bit controversial. Personally, I think that while hemming $400 jeans is normal, tapering them is too radical and drastic. Haraki-san and Giles work like artists on the designs and the result is their vision. Modifying the cut just means this is the wrong cut for you, and you're fucking with what was intended. Obviously they are your jeans and it's entirely up to you what you do with them. If it was me and I wasn't happy with the cut, I'd put them up for sale and re-invest the proceeds in the cut I wanted, before tapering what is intended to be a slim-straight cut.
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…and a response from @Giles
@Jordonf9 said in We know you love IH, but where do you think we can improve?:
I'm guessing it's been brought up….but tapering service for guys like I. Instead of sending our jeans to RCFG for the service...right from you guys would be killer. Though he 888 cut sort of fixes future releases, not a fix for denim that might not ever be introduced to the cut.
@Giles said in We know you love IH, but where do you think we can improve?:
We don't feck around with our cuts. You want to, then we can't stop you.
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It's a tough job designing a few cuts for a lot of body types and styles no doubt. i certainty didn't mean any disrespect.
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@CosmoSix5 No disrespect taken as it’s a topic that has popped up fairly frequently over the years with the answer always being no. As @Jett129 pointed out, there are a few great tailors out there who specialize in these types of requests. They are highly revered in the community and maybe you could try reaching out to them about how to make your wishes come true.
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@goosehd said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
with the answer always being no
Basically because Haraki takes a lot of time and effort to get the cuts perfect, both in cut and balance (in his eyes), so chopping and changing, is not something he'd want to be involved with.....
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I would love a type III jacket in the same, black duck canvas, as the recent 'IH-742-BLK double front duck shorts' as mine are already fading/ageing really nicely..........(or maybe even a sherpa lined duck type III.........?)..........
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@Darth-fader better yet, bring back the IH-X256J !
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Next time you do a run of the IHTL-1700 do a Dark Khaki/Olive color.
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@Giles you got me on the hook for sure then. I know this is probably a YWKWWK but if you know any release info or sample info let me know. Sounds like a killer coat.
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@goosehd I've got a great local tailor but she's hesitant to mess with anything higher than the 17-21oz products she's completed for me. I'd have to ship them to denim therapy or railcar which I trust but...$$ we'll see I never say never!
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@CosmoSix5 There are a few members on the forum that have taken jeans to the next level of fit by sending their pairs to denim specialists. I don’t know how much they have spent, but the results have been phenomenal.
In the denim game, sometimes you need to make compromises and either accept the standard offerings as is or as you and others have done, pay extra for what you want.
It sounds like you are in a niche wants department and may have to pursue the specialist route. Could be worth it to get what you desire.
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@CosmoSix5 My local tailor used the sewing machine that he would normally use to make repairs/alterations on leather garments in order to taper my XHS/IB they came out really good. Probably not a lot of tailors have that kind of sewing machine.
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@Jett129 I'm planning on waiting for the 25oz IB in September and it looks like I can get them done at railcar for about $100 after shipping both directions. That way I can keep wearing the 21oz that I really like. All depends though
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I would get daily use out of a "Chore Vest" in denim or duck. My neighbor has an incredibly faded Carhartt chore coat that she chopped the arms off of.
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@Giles classic Giles, I needed that