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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Biltbuck Lot 444 by Attraction

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    • Daniel SanD
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      they are not made in the same factory as far as I know. And the last and shape is pretty different. the heel of the skoob is lower and the toe box is more "bulky" ( like the Y2engineers)
      the last of the 444 is a little more sleek.
      both awesome boots for sure 👍

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        I can see what you mean side by side, especially the toe shape in profile and I don’t think the Skoobs tea core as fast.

        I wondered about the factory as I read that Skoob do or did make shoes/boots for other companies.

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        • Daniel SanD
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          S&S X Attractions 444 brown horsehair 🤘😁
          hell yeah 👏
          absolutely spectacular boots !! and on the way , can’t wait to get them ….checking the tracking every minute 🤪

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          • flannel slutF
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            @Daniel-San saw these post yesterday and immediately thought of you. Stoked we’ll get some pics out in the wild from you

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            • Daniel SanD
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              They arrived 🥳
              Fantastic boots , the leather is again outstanding with a very beautiful grain .
              The shaft is softer on these and lined , so breaking in will be less painful on the calfs 😆
              the horse hair is super cool and has a stunning color which pairs perfectly with the leather.
              they are a little brighter than the brown ones I already have which is a relief as I was a little afraid they could look identical to my brown ones .
              here a few first impressions 👏

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              • NikN
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                Cool @Daniel-San what is the expected long term wear of the horsehair? Will it fall off or will it stay and so these are intended as winter boots?

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                • Daniel SanD
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                  I have no idea , but these samples are pretty worn and the horse hair still looking good.
                  Don’t think they are meant as winter boots.

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                  • John GaltJ
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                    @Daniel-San I was looking at these last week and was considering a purchase. Did you go with the recommended 0.5 size smaller than Brannock and if so, how’s the fit? Do you have any Wesco Mr. Lou’s that you can correlate sizing against? Thanks for any sizing info you can provide.

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                    • Daniel SanD
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                      not easy to give any size recommendations cause I need to wear orthopedic insoles.
                      Normally I had a 9.5 US in all of my boots, but because of the insoles I had to size up . Now I have a US 10 in most of my boots. Unfortunately I can’t tell you what brannock size I have , It’s not very common here in Germany.
                      If you have Iron Rangers , I would choose the same size for the 444.
                      hope that helps

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                      • mecken88M
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                        Yeah sizing in new boots is always a gamble. I have size 7.5 in my Iron Rangers, always 8,5 in VANS sneakers with 26,5cm.

                        But I have 8D in both my Wesco engineer boots. The Attraction 444 is on the bucket list for me too, but sizing is always a bit scary when trying a new brand.

                        But the lot 444 seams to have wider toe box then the Mr Lou is that correct..?

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                        • John GaltJ
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                          @Daniel-San thanks for the honest feedback - greatly appreciated.

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                          • Daniel SanD
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                            I can’t compare with the Wescos, sorry !
                            The 444 look pretty sleek but have good overall volume for the feet. Getting in and out is struggle free, at least for me.
                            The only thing is the break in 😁 which is quite challenging for most guys. The leather is outstanding ,but thick and stiff, so it needs a little to get comfortable.
                            I would recommend the same size as your Iron Rangers .

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                            • FlavourFadeF
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                              I am in the market for some 444 and everybody tells me same size as IR is recommended @John-Galt

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                              wtb:
                              The Pale Rider XXL

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                              • Daniel SanD
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                                first day 🤩
                                they look awesome with well faded 21oz lefty 666

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                                • John GaltJ
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                                  @Daniel-San gorgeous boots - very tempting.

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                                  • Daniel SanD
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                                    after the first hours in , I can say that these run a little smaller than the other ones I have. They are overall a little tighter, so if you are in between two sizes you might think of sizing up.
                                    But of course this could be different with every single pair as they are handmade and little tolerances are usual as we all know.

                                    For me these are the best fitting ones so far , yes they are pretty tight fitting but the result is absolutely zero heel slip. As always I start with the thinnest socks I have and slowly use thicker ones during the break in progress.
                                    to be more precise, I don’t wear socks in my engineers anymore. I changed to knee high socks or are they called stockings 🤔?
                                    Much more comfortable way to wear engineers from my experience.

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                                    • John GaltJ
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                                      @Daniel-San thank you much for the feedback and advice - they look great

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                                      • Daniel SanD
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                                        they are absolutely awesome and they will get a wonderful patina with time and wear.
                                        But I need to find a matching leather jacket now as I only have black ones 😂

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                                        • ZackBZ
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                                          @Daniel-San those are absolutely beautiful man. Let us know what jacket you find to match

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                                          • John GaltJ
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                                            @Daniel-San 😳😂the rabbit hole gets deeper. Looking forward to seeing the jacket you go with.

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