• Home
  • Recent
  • Calendar
  • Register
  • Login
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Calendar
  • Register
  • Login
Iron Heart Forum
Iron Heart Forum

New Iron Heart Website - Live Now - Feedback and Bug Report Here Please!

Motor Sport

Sport
48
737
119.7k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • L
    louisbosco
    啓蒙家
    @motojobobo
    Joined: 21 Feb 2013

    @motojobobo just as I said that, Marquez has gone and crashed in the race 🤦♂ I guess that'll make the season more exciting

    but I agree with you on the dominance of Ducati in the recent years. I haven't watched it long but I remember the glory days of Yamaha and when Marquez was with Honda.

    I don't think the corporate ownership has anything to do with racing but it's more of how they've developed this v4 platform over the years

    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

    • Harvey Specter
    last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • N
      NickD
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 17 Nov 2024

      I'm a massive Ducati fan (one of my bikes is a Panigale V2) so I'm not entirely unbiased.

      Ducati are spending fairly big sums on racing, it's not a drop in the ocean, but IMO where they got ahead was in making the bike fast intially, and then improving the chassis. It wasn't until 2017 that they had any realistic chance of winning the championship. They also stole a march on everyone else in terms of the aero and the ride height devices, and they are still reaping the benefits from that.

      Honda's mistake was building a bike that Marc could ride and no-once else, it doesn't help development when you have a generational talent masking where your bike isn't so good - it's better to have Pecco and Martin developing a bike than, say, Marc, Acosta, or TR in World Superbike where they ride in a way that can't be replicated reasonably by another rider.

      Also, I agree that the corporate ownership isn't necessarily that important (Ducati was really successful in the 90's when financially they were on the bones of their arse), but the trickle down effect on the road bikes will definitely help justifying the cost of the race team in a way that F1 perhaps doesn't. A v4 or v2 Panigale has the same intrinsic strengths and weaknesses (fast, good into and coming out of a corner, not so good in the middle) as the Desmosedici, and an R1, like the M1 is an amazing handling bike, but not as quick in a straight line.

      last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 12:09 G 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2025, 12:20 Reply Quote 1
      • G
        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        @NickD
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        @NickD said in Motor Sport:

        it doesn't help development when you have a generational talent masking where your bike isn't so good

        Max, Car....

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

        last edited by Giles 31 Mar 2025, 12:20 L 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2025, 13:37 Reply Quote 3
        • L
          louisbosco
          啓蒙家
          @Giles
          Joined: 21 Feb 2013

          @Giles great video this showing the comparisons between max and Liam. you can see Liam always breaks later but makes numerous adjustments in the corner and is afraid of the throttle and the rear snapping when exiting. costs him a lot over a lap..

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

          • Harvey Specter
          last edited by louisbosco 31 Mar 2025, 13:37 B 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2025, 14:14 Reply Quote 0
          • B
            Bridger
            Raw and Unwashed
            @louisbosco
            Joined: 3 Mar 2021

            Cool vid @louisbosco, thanks for sharing.

            You're right about the breaking. Max seems pretty patient with the breaking - possibly to be kinder on the tires or because it helps his acceleration out of the corner, which seemed faster than Lawson.

            Fingers are crossed for Yuki.

            last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 14:14 L 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2025, 14:36 Reply Quote 0
            • L
              louisbosco
              啓蒙家
              @Bridger
              Joined: 21 Feb 2013

              @Bridger there was an interview with lawson maybe within the last year where he was describing the car as "twitchy" and how pointy it was, and that was how max likes it. (the car)

              going back to the fact that this car was designed for max and max alone..

              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

              • Harvey Specter
              last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 14:36 B 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2025, 14:46 Reply Quote 0
              • G
                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                Thanks Louis....

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 14:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • B
                  Bridger
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  @louisbosco
                  Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                  You're right @louisbosco

                  Putting all the eggs in Max's basket is not going to win them a manufacturer's championship

                  last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 14:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • W
                    WhiskeySandwich
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                    ....oh speaking of Stroll - here's in case you didn't see the 2024 RPM awards show.

                    "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                    -Seneca

                    last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 18:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • G
                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      Well, fuck me, Red Bull being extraordinarily creative and completely thinking outside the box......

                      Tsunoda told to be 'as close to Verstappen as possible'

                      I'm in awe....

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                      last edited by Giles 4 Feb 2025, 20:23 2 Apr 2025, 20:23 L M 2 Replies Last reply 2 Apr 2025, 22:28 Reply Quote 0
                      • B
                        Bridger
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                        The Bulls have always nurtured their second drivers. A warm welcome with warm words of support. Simply lovely.

                        last edited by 2 Apr 2025, 20:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • L
                          louisbosco
                          啓蒙家
                          @Giles
                          Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                          @Giles after recent events, I'm sure the team had to reiterate the objective for the season

                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                          • Harvey Specter
                          last edited by 2 Apr 2025, 22:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • M
                            mclaincausey
                            見習いボス
                            @Giles
                            Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                            @Giles well look at the big brains on team Red Bull! 🤣

                            Think it, be it.

                            last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 00:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • M
                              mclaincausey
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                              My kid shouted “GO LANDO!” at the ballet. So I got that going for me 🤣

                              Think it, be it.

                              last edited by 7 Apr 2025, 12:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • M
                                mclaincausey
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                Incredibly boring race with Max P1 almose wore to wire and McLaren bins the strategy. I’ve seen that movie before…

                                Think it, be it.

                                last edited by 7 Apr 2025, 12:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • W
                                  WhiskeySandwich
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                                  It was good to see Lando's responses to questions about mowing the lawn. He was a good sport. I bet on him and Oscar for a 1-2 with Max in third, but was still psyched to see Max get Pole and keep his lead and pressure on McLaren and show that he's still a top contender. I think the season will surely get spicy with a good variety in points and on podiums.

                                  "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                  -Seneca

                                  last edited by 7 Apr 2025, 15:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • W
                                    WhiskeySandwich
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                                    Sainz was literally 5 seconds late to the national anthem ceremony because he had to poop, and the FIA fined him $10,000. Later in the press conference he was asked about it and replied "Shit happens". and now he's probably getting another fine. Why is this a thing?

                                    "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                    -Seneca

                                    last edited by 11 Apr 2025, 18:15 G 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2025, 18:41 Reply Quote 1
                                    • G
                                      Go For Chill
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      @WhiskeySandwich
                                      Joined: 3 Jan 2025

                                      @WhiskeySandwich The FIA and F1 has been on a backwards decline for a while. It feels like they are out of touch with fans and continue to drift further and further away. My guess is that it’s a top down leadership issue. Trying to suppress drivers showing personality. The shift to v6 and hybrids. The 2026 shift to a 50/50 hybrid split. The ban on active aero. To me, it all says “We are out of touch with what fans want and we don’t care.”

                                      I’ve been happy to hear that they’ve considered bringing back the v10, and the addition of more active aero freedom in coming years. Maybe they’ll let the drivers be themselves at some point in the future as well.

                                      "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison

                                      last edited by 11 Apr 2025, 18:41 M W 2 Replies Last reply 11 Apr 2025, 18:43 Reply Quote 0
                                      • M
                                        mclaincausey
                                        見習いボス
                                        @Go For Chill
                                        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                        @Go-For-Chill MBS is a POS like the other MBS

                                        Think it, be it.

                                        last edited by 11 Apr 2025, 18:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • W
                                          WhiskeySandwich
                                          啓蒙家
                                          @Go For Chill
                                          Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                                          @Go-For-Chill yeah mbs will surely be out this year. I think the V10 thing was all in jest. It’s too good to be true, but it would also fuck with the whole deal teams have already begun developing for next year. I personally think the “sustainability and environmental impact” part of the motive is pure horseshit. It’s 20 cars every two weeks. While I get that motorsports drive innovation for road cars, this is the pinnacle of car racing and they shouldn’t be bound by hokey rules like this.

                                          "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                          -Seneca

                                          last edited by 11 Apr 2025, 22:16 M 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2025, 23:10 Reply Quote 1
                                          693 out of 737
                                          • First post
                                            693/737
                                            Last post
                                          Copyright Iron Heart 2022.