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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    Nice one Eli....

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      RobeOfTheMagi
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

      photo_2015-10-03_18-45-24.jpg

      I miss that one. Had to sell it in order to pay rent as student.

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        RobeOfTheMagi
        Haraki san Expert
        Joined: 15 Apr 2024

        This is btw the first analog quartz chronograph. The movement is quite interesting:

        https://www.watch-wiki.net/doku.php?id=seiko_7a

        I also had the 7A38, which is the day date version.

        7A38.jpg

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          Seul
          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

          Well it's been travelling from Italy to Belgium for four days and it's still accurate down to the minute... Guess that says it all...
          Yes yes yes I know quartz mov't and all that... Still this is pretty complicated... Some intel I stole:

          Don’t be fooled by the word “QUARTZ” either. This is indeed a quartz watch, but it isn’t a cheap throwaway quartz movement. The 7548 movement is based on the hugely iconic 6309 automatic movement. The two movements are identical until you get to where the mainspring would usually be. Instead of a mainspring you find a battery powered quartz crystal circuit board. My point being, this movement is powered by quartz, but is 90% mechanical and is full metal construction (other than the circuit board). It’s designed to be serviced, nurtured. Not thrown away should things go wrong with it.

          The 7548 is the same as this 6458, the latter just being a smaller (38mm) case version.

          Oh and yes I'm aware we're the 27th today. I'll fix that in a bit...

          IMG_20250327_145557.jpg

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            Anesthetist
            見習いボス
            @Seul
            Joined: 14 May 2011

            @Seul I love nice quartz watches, I’m glad to see this one on your wrist.

            IG: bluehandsslim

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              mclaincausey
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              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

              Agreed. We’ll played @Seul

              Think it, be it.

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                Seul
                Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                I wasn't sure this was a JDM (Japanese domestic market/ made in Japan) watch, but since I can set the weekdays in Nihongo, I assume it is?
                I know it should say on the dial but the font is about minus 200... All I can make out is the T for tritium...

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                  Graeme
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                  Rolex has just announced the Land-Dweller, which has been pretty heavily leaked over the last few days.

                  Rolex Land-Dweller

                  It's an integrated bracelet watch, which they haven't done for some years, but the big news is the movement. It has a new silicon natural escarpment, which they've dubbed the Dynapulse, it runs at 5 Hz, rather than 4 Hz, and is thinner than the existing movements.

                  Rolex claims it's more accurate, but it's still certified to their -2/+2 seconds per day Superlative Chronometer standard. I thought that they might have chased Omega's 0/+2 seconds claim for the Spirate system.

                  Hodinkee and Fratello have write-ups.

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                    Graeme
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                    Meanwhile, Grand Seiko laughs in Rolex's face when it comes to accuracy. The new Spring Drive UFA is accurate to within 20 seconds per year, and it's $6K cheaper at around $10K.

                    Grand Seiko.jpg

                    More at Hodinkee.

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                      Brian
                      Joined: 24 Nov 2022

                      and any mortal might be able to actually buy the GS from an AD without jumping through hoops

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                        JDelage
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                        That Land Dweller is not an ugly watch TBH. I'm sure it will sell very well.

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                          Graeme
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                          Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                          The trouble that I have with the Land-Dweller is the price. It's $16K (US) or $24K (Australian). That's about the same as a Glashütte Original SeaQ Panorama Date in steel and gold, or an entry level Fifty Fathoms.

                          Like @JDelage, I don't think that it's an ugly watch. It feels a bit derivative. The Tissot PRX looks like a version of the Vacheron Constantin 222, and the Land-Dweller seems to be a copy of these with Rolex garnishes.

                          I'm curious where the movement will turn up next. A titanium Explorer fitted with it would be lovely.

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                            RobeOfTheMagi
                            Haraki san Expert
                            Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                            @Graeme I think most people spending $16K on a watch really are in the position to just buy all of the above mentioned models. I'm really not sure they are comparing dollars for features or value too much.

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                              ARNC
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                              @Graeme tempted me to look at the recent announcements. The two standouts for me are never going to happen - one isn’t even a watch (which won’t surprise some of you)!

                              The Cartier Tank à Guichets is beautiful, especially IMO this one:
                              IMG_0348.jpeg

                              But the real winner for me is this from Patek. I love the combination of horology, silversmithing and enamelling, although I doubt my extended family has enough spare organs to cover the cost!
                              IMG_0347.jpeg

                              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                Graeme
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                @ARNC my favourite Patek release is the Calatrava 6196P. It's a simple hand wound watch in platinum. I'd get one over the Cubitus, if I had a spare CHF 40K lying around. (The Cubitus is CHF 35K, so slightly cheaper, and far less lovely.)

                                Patek 6196P

                                Zenith announced the GFJ which is similar (a platinum case, hand wound movement), but a slightly larger case. It's actually more expensive, at CHF 49K.

                                Zenith GFJ

                                What's really interesting about it is Zenith have resurrected a vintage chronometer movement, the Calibre 135, which they've given a few contemporary twists. It's got a 72-hour power reserve, up from 40 hours, and it's regulated to -2 to +2 sec per day, which is the same as Rolex's Superlative Chronometer rating.

                                Zenith Calibre 135

                                @RobeOfTheMagi I don't think that buyers will be cross shopping the Zenith and the Patek either!

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                                  ARNC
                                  啓蒙家
                                  @Graeme
                                  Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                                  @Graeme the Calatrava is beautiful and definitely more practical than my choice. The GFJ dial doesn’t work for me for some reason (although many of the design elements are up my street), but the movement is definitely interesting.

                                  “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                    Graeme
                                    啓蒙家
                                    @ARNC
                                    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                    @ARNC the GFJ dial looks too fussy, with too many different materials and textures. Zenith could have simplified it, and it would have looked better.

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                                      mclaincausey
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                                      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                      Zenith rarely gets it right IMO. The movement isn’t attractive either. Not vibing with the weird engravings.

                                      But the PP is lovely.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                        MTpockets
                                        @mclaincausey
                                        Joined: 11 Jun 2021

                                        @mclaincausey - totally agree. The only Zeniths I ever liked were some of the El Primeros and a few of the plane jane Defys that they launched 5 or 6 years ago.

                                        The PP is obviously beautiful. They rarely put out anything horrid. But of course they are WAY out of my price range.

                                        As far as the new Rolex Land whatever - I applaud the idea but I think they went too far with the dials. They don’t do it for me at all. If that was a basic sunray dial or something else conservative from their archives, maybe I could get behind it. I also think the middle links in the bracelet are also pushing it a bit too into the bling range.

                                        They are obviously trying to capture some of the VC and AP market with a reduced price point. But I can’t see AP buyers to even look in Rolex’s direction at this. I could be wrong.

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          The Patek gets my vote too....

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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