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    Molle
    Haraki san Student
    @RobeOfTheMagi
    Joined: 20 Jan 2024

    @RobeOfTheMagi

    Thanks!

    Talking a bit about my Seiko divers here (in Swedish).

    IG: 68molle

    last edited by 21 Mar 2025, 13:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
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      RobeOfTheMagi
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

      I miss old pre "X" Seiko ... .

      last edited by 22 Mar 2025, 11:34 A 1 Reply Last reply 24 Mar 2025, 02:18 Reply Quote 2
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        Anesthetist
        見習いボス
        @RobeOfTheMagi
        Joined: 14 May 2011

        @RobeOfTheMagi agreed

        IG: bluehandsslim

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          pechelman
          啓蒙家
          @RobeOfTheMagi
          Joined: 24 Jan 2022

          @RobeOfTheMagi I used to have one but sold it on. It was a cool watch. I replaced the hardlex with sapphire. The bezel could have been a little nicer imo, the ratcheting strap was functionally nice but it's still in need of an update, and it was always a little top heavy and unbalanced on any strap. The monoblock was cool but made servicing a little less easy.

          last edited by 24 Mar 2025, 03:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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            Seul
            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

            And thus the search for the "perfect" watch continues... I'd whittled it down to

            • Seiko
            • diver
            • 42m or less
            • non-metal bracelet
            • green dial and/or bracelet

            I went through hundreds of listings of Presages, (baby) Alpines, Prospexes, Tunas, Sumos, Padis; hell you name it...
            Most of 'm are either bigger, way more expensive and usually both those things...

            I settled for this 1986 6458-602B 200m diver. New battery, new strap. Bought for 270€. It was shipped today (no pics or impressions yet) but here's a pic from the listing:

            (I should add... This is meant to take some abuse... Nothing fancy... Just a trustworthy Japanese workhorse...)

            Screenshot_2025-03-23-20-51-14-88_d8f7c2d4207c9c881dc42dd7bff41fe7.jpg

            last edited by Seul 24 Mar 2025, 12:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 10
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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              Nice one Eli....

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

              last edited by 24 Mar 2025, 12:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                RobeOfTheMagi
                Haraki san Expert
                Joined: 15 Apr 2024

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                I miss that one. Had to sell it in order to pay rent as student.

                last edited by 24 Mar 2025, 20:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
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                  RobeOfTheMagi
                  Haraki san Expert
                  Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                  This is btw the first analog quartz chronograph. The movement is quite interesting:

                  https://www.watch-wiki.net/doku.php?id=seiko_7a

                  I also had the 7A38, which is the day date version.

                  7A38.jpg

                  last edited by 24 Mar 2025, 20:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
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                    Seul
                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                    Well it's been travelling from Italy to Belgium for four days and it's still accurate down to the minute... Guess that says it all...
                    Yes yes yes I know quartz mov't and all that... Still this is pretty complicated... Some intel I stole:

                    Don’t be fooled by the word “QUARTZ” either. This is indeed a quartz watch, but it isn’t a cheap throwaway quartz movement. The 7548 movement is based on the hugely iconic 6309 automatic movement. The two movements are identical until you get to where the mainspring would usually be. Instead of a mainspring you find a battery powered quartz crystal circuit board. My point being, this movement is powered by quartz, but is 90% mechanical and is full metal construction (other than the circuit board). It’s designed to be serviced, nurtured. Not thrown away should things go wrong with it.

                    The 7548 is the same as this 6458, the latter just being a smaller (38mm) case version.

                    Oh and yes I'm aware we're the 27th today. I'll fix that in a bit...

                    IMG_20250327_145557.jpg

                    last edited by 27 Mar 2025, 14:22 A 1 Reply Last reply 27 Mar 2025, 23:38 Reply Quote 9
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                      Anesthetist
                      見習いボス
                      @Seul
                      Joined: 14 May 2011

                      @Seul I love nice quartz watches, I’m glad to see this one on your wrist.

                      IG: bluehandsslim

                      last edited by 27 Mar 2025, 23:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        mclaincausey
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                        Agreed. We’ll played @Seul

                        Think it, be it.

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                          Seul
                          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                          I wasn't sure this was a JDM (Japanese domestic market/ made in Japan) watch, but since I can set the weekdays in Nihongo, I assume it is?
                          I know it should say on the dial but the font is about minus 200... All I can make out is the T for tritium...

                          last edited by 28 Mar 2025, 14:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                            Graeme
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                            Rolex has just announced the Land-Dweller, which has been pretty heavily leaked over the last few days.

                            Rolex Land-Dweller

                            It's an integrated bracelet watch, which they haven't done for some years, but the big news is the movement. It has a new silicon natural escarpment, which they've dubbed the Dynapulse, it runs at 5 Hz, rather than 4 Hz, and is thinner than the existing movements.

                            Rolex claims it's more accurate, but it's still certified to their -2/+2 seconds per day Superlative Chronometer standard. I thought that they might have chased Omega's 0/+2 seconds claim for the Spirate system.

                            Hodinkee and Fratello have write-ups.

                            last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 23:53 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
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                              Graeme
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                              Meanwhile, Grand Seiko laughs in Rolex's face when it comes to accuracy. The new Spring Drive UFA is accurate to within 20 seconds per year, and it's $6K cheaper at around $10K.

                              Grand Seiko.jpg

                              More at Hodinkee.

                              last edited by 31 Mar 2025, 23:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 5
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                                Brian
                                Joined: 24 Nov 2022

                                and any mortal might be able to actually buy the GS from an AD without jumping through hoops

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                                  JDelage
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                  That Land Dweller is not an ugly watch TBH. I'm sure it will sell very well.

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                                    Graeme
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                    The trouble that I have with the Land-Dweller is the price. It's $16K (US) or $24K (Australian). That's about the same as a Glashütte Original SeaQ Panorama Date in steel and gold, or an entry level Fifty Fathoms.

                                    Like @JDelage, I don't think that it's an ugly watch. It feels a bit derivative. The Tissot PRX looks like a version of the Vacheron Constantin 222, and the Land-Dweller seems to be a copy of these with Rolex garnishes.

                                    I'm curious where the movement will turn up next. A titanium Explorer fitted with it would be lovely.

                                    last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 09:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      RobeOfTheMagi
                                      Haraki san Expert
                                      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                                      @Graeme I think most people spending $16K on a watch really are in the position to just buy all of the above mentioned models. I'm really not sure they are comparing dollars for features or value too much.

                                      last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 10:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                        ARNC
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                                        @Graeme tempted me to look at the recent announcements. The two standouts for me are never going to happen - one isn’t even a watch (which won’t surprise some of you)!

                                        The Cartier Tank à Guichets is beautiful, especially IMO this one:
                                        IMG_0348.jpeg

                                        But the real winner for me is this from Patek. I love the combination of horology, silversmithing and enamelling, although I doubt my extended family has enough spare organs to cover the cost!
                                        IMG_0347.jpeg

                                        “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                          Graeme
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                          @ARNC my favourite Patek release is the Calatrava 6196P. It's a simple hand wound watch in platinum. I'd get one over the Cubitus, if I had a spare CHF 40K lying around. (The Cubitus is CHF 35K, so slightly cheaper, and far less lovely.)

                                          Patek 6196P

                                          Zenith announced the GFJ which is similar (a platinum case, hand wound movement), but a slightly larger case. It's actually more expensive, at CHF 49K.

                                          Zenith GFJ

                                          What's really interesting about it is Zenith have resurrected a vintage chronometer movement, the Calibre 135, which they've given a few contemporary twists. It's got a 72-hour power reserve, up from 40 hours, and it's regulated to -2 to +2 sec per day, which is the same as Rolex's Superlative Chronometer rating.

                                          Zenith Calibre 135

                                          @RobeOfTheMagi I don't think that buyers will be cross shopping the Zenith and the Patek either!

                                          last edited by 1 Apr 2025, 13:04 A 1 Reply Last reply 1 Apr 2025, 13:13 Reply Quote 2
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