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IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    yannis
    Haraki san Expert
    Joined: 26 Aug 2020

    Thank you so much @ Sabergirl and @ Pechelman. Those thigh measurement are a definite no go. Even tag 40 has a 13.0 thigh. Tag 38 on my 463's is 13.7. So there is a big difference between the 2 cuts. Again thanks alot!

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      My rule of thumb with the 461 cut is that if you have any concern about any of the measurements, steer clear. They are infinitely hard to size correctly, which is why we stopped selling this cut

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        yannis
        Haraki san Expert
        Joined: 26 Aug 2020

        Thank you G. I realized that they are a no go when i looked at the size chart. I am honestly looking for another 463 but they are so difficult to find.

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          Daniel San
          見習いボス
          Joined: 2 May 2020

          I love this cut and a 33 fits perfect for me, maybe even the best fitting cut for me .
          Always looking for some but hard to find 🥲

          last edited by 23 Apr 2024, 04:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Wingnut61
            Raw and Unwashed
            @brently
            Joined: 22 May 2022

            @brently I right with ya , I will and have only worn bootcut or larger , we used to slit outseam of Levi’s 501 with a 2 1/2” slit
            Years ago I bought a IH-464 from Japan

            it was called bell bottom but for me having to hem them quite a bit they came out to basically a IH-461. Perfect !

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              Pinkpan
              Joined: 26 Feb 2025

              Back from the grave.
              This topic I mean.
              My beloved 461s.
              It will need a hemming since I don’t wear my jeans with cuffs anymore but it will be back in the main rotation soon.
              Even looking to get another one maybe.

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              74 or more…

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                Travis2375
                Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                Found some used 461Z and they are my favorite pair. Great cut. Wish they were in continuous production and available in the US. You guys should do a return for credit only or something if the returns were that bad. Hopefully the new 463 comes to the US, looking forward to that one

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  Then we end up with a pair of jeans that we don't have a webpage which makes them difficult to sell 🙂

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    yannis
                    Haraki san Expert
                    Joined: 26 Aug 2020

                    From my understanding the 461 was difficult to size correctly and that created an issue with abnormally high returns. I can understand why as a bussiness stear away from something like this. The 463 is much more forgiving and easier to size so hopefully we see them back again.

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                      Arkimeediz
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 25 Dec 2024

                      @Giles I've considered getting a pair of the 461Z or 461S, since bootcut is my comfort food. I was curious...what is difficult with the sizing? For example if I know my own personal measurement (not garment measurements) should I still expect to maybe get it wrong?

                      ...many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Low rise and slim thigh and knee.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Travis2375
                          @Giles
                          Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                          @Giles said in IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo:

                          Low rise and slim thigh and knee.

                          The first time I put a pair on I thought 'oh no' because of the tight thighs and low rise, but once I stretched them out for an hour or so, they fit perfectly, my favorite pair now. But, I could see where someone would be thrown off by the fit the first time they put them on.

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                            Travis2375
                            Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                            I just had a pair of these delivered yesterday, bought off ebay from Japan, 461Z new with the tag still sewn on, but there is this weird stain or washed out area on the inside. The outside looks normal, but on the inside it looks like this. I thought it was weird how the lighter color skipped the patch and pocket area. Has anyone seen this before?

                            PXL_20250307_013107819@0.1x.jpg

                            last edited by 7 Mar 2025, 10:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              Not seen that before....

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                              last edited by 7 Mar 2025, 11:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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