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    IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo

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      yannis
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      From my understanding the 461 was difficult to size correctly and that created an issue with abnormally high returns. I can understand why as a bussiness stear away from something like this. The 463 is much more forgiving and easier to size so hopefully we see them back again.

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      • ArkimeedizA
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        @Giles I've considered getting a pair of the 461Z or 461S, since bootcut is my comfort food. I was curious...what is difficult with the sizing? For example if I know my own personal measurement (not garment measurements) should I still expect to maybe get it wrong?

        ...many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip

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        • GilesG
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          Low rise and slim thigh and knee.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • Travis2375T
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            @Giles said in IH-461S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Boot Cut Jeans - Indigo:

            Low rise and slim thigh and knee.

            The first time I put a pair on I thought 'oh no' because of the tight thighs and low rise, but once I stretched them out for an hour or so, they fit perfectly, my favorite pair now. But, I could see where someone would be thrown off by the fit the first time they put them on.

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            • Travis2375T
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              I just had a pair of these delivered yesterday, bought off ebay from Japan, 461Z new with the tag still sewn on, but there is this weird stain or washed out area on the inside. The outside looks normal, but on the inside it looks like this. I thought it was weird how the lighter color skipped the patch and pocket area. Has anyone seen this before?

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              • GilesG
                Giles
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                Not seen that before....

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • steelworkerS
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                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                  Well, I have others.

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                  • steelworkerS
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                    Pendleton Freewheelers IH -461

                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                    Well, I have others.

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                    • Marty_funkhauserM
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                      my favorite cut and it ain't close, I have 6 pairs

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                        Damocles
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                        Are these going to be restocked at all?

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                          @Giles said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

                          @Travis2375 said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

                          25oz Bootcut

                          Long answer:
                          99% of people can't size our boot cut properly (let alone in a 25oz). The customer returns on the IH-461 and IH-461S were off the scale, which is why we no longer offer them.....

                          Additionally, as @Alex has said a number of times, our production capacity is such that we can't make enough of our current core cuts to satisfy demand as it is.

                          It is seriously embarrassing and potentially damaging for us never to have a decent quantity of core items in stock for more than a day or two. We're the brand FFS......

                          Some people think we are manipulating production to create scarcity, and that hurts me personally, as we have never been, nor ever will be that cynical.

                          Short answer:
                          No

                          “Not all of us can do great things. But we can do small things with great love.”

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                            Damocles
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                            @goosehd ah shame I see. Thank you 🙂

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                            • goosehdG
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                              @Damocles I may of mislead you on this and am tagging @ShopatIronHeart for verification.

                              The original question is “would they consider making a 25oz bootcut (461 or 463)?

                              The answer was no.

                              As to the 21oz. 461’s being restocked, I am asking the IHUK crew.

                              Sorry for any miscommunication.

                              “Not all of us can do great things. But we can do small things with great love.”

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                              • BaileyB
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                                @Damocles Hi, there is no plans to restock these currently speaking I am afraid. Never say never like with most things, but no plans to.

                                @bailey_ironheart

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  @Bailey Thank you!

                                  “Not all of us can do great things. But we can do small things with great love.”

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                                  • steelworkerS
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                                    Pendleton IH461S TFH Schnee

                                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                    Well, I have others.

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