Ship John
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I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this but...just curious if anyone else here finds the Wills Jacket to be unwearable? It's a great jacket, well made, looks nice but I think it's really uncomfortable. Too damn rigid. Plus the sizing runs small so it doesn't allow for much movement or layering. I admire SJ and their business but with all the hype and praise around the Wills jacket Im wondering if there's anyone else who feels this way. I think it would be a much better jacket if it weren't so thick ( And had a blanket lining ).
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In July 2022 I ordered the v2 Wills with the standard 24oz wax coating for January 2025 delivery.
In May 2024 I got an email about the limited edition Battleship Grey with a light wax coating. I think they called it 18oz+ like they do in the description of the Black LE jacket that they put out in January:
- https://shipjohn.us/products/the-v2-wills-jacket-black-dry-wax
- Please note: This Jacket has a lighter waxed/oil finish than our standard Wills jackets. While still heavily water resistant, This lighter finish makes for a more moveable garment... The weight gain is nominal with this finish so we're just calling this an 18oz+ based on the twill weight plus a smidge for the finish.
I went on the website the day they released the Battleship Grey not expecting to actually be able to buy one and I was surprised when my order went through.
So, long story short is I have two Wills jackets. The light-wax version is MUCH more wearable than the fully waxed beast. If I had it to do over again I'd get the 24oz Wills in an XL even though the measurements of the L is a much better match for every other jacket in my closet. The 24oz L is a little tough to layer under and it's hard to put on a backpack with it zipped up.
All of that to say, I don't find the 24oz unwearable exactly, but it's rigid for sure.
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@Plant-Life I can understand the sentiment of it being “unwearable”. It for sure is a tough jacket. But I’ve been finding that the more I wear it, with the lighter the wax has gotten and it’s now formed to my body shape, it’s gotten much easier to wear. Still not the easiest for putting on a backpack as @chadstone30 mentioned. I have trouble getting my work vest on and off with a Wills on. But as for just wearing it around, I enjoy it more and more each time I put it on. A lighter weight fabric is probably better for overall movement though.
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@chadstone30 The Grey version is lighter wax/weight sounds much better. Wish that had been an option when I got mine. I have a Medium V2 which I received in 2023.
@Danimal506 Thanks for the reply. I'd imagine it does soften up a but after a lot of wear. I just haven't been able to deal with wearing it enough to get to that point. There isn't a lot of good seasonal weather here in New York for it. It's usually too cold for it. It doesn't retain heat so it's not warm ( and I can't layer much ) but it's too thick for weather that isn't cold. I'm thinking of selling it.
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@Plant-Life If your are considering selling it, please do so in the IH marketplace per our forum rules. Many sellers (and buyers) have had great transactions here.
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@goosehd Will do- thanks.
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@Plant-Life that's funny I'm in Brooklyn too
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@chadstone30 Oh yeah? I have yet to see anyone in NYC wearing one, which is kinda surprising.
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Look for a green one and a grey one on the A train.
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@chadstone30 Haha
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@Plant-Life It was pretty chilly in NYC tonight.Where are you located? Saw your post that you’re in Bklyn.after I posted.
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@Jett129 Yeah definitely chilly. BTW I didn't mean it wasn't cold here ( not sure if my post was clear) , I meant it's too cold in NYC to wear the Wills jacket for a good part of the year. I'm in Brooklyn on the west side of Prospect Park.
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I have a question for people owning the Gibson wallet and hopefully with Iron heart jeans.
My only preference was a pair of jeans that hade very shallow back pockets, so the longer styled wallet looked slightly off.
But after last Indigo invitational I treated myself to a pair of Ship John Holcomb V2 22.5oz jeans. And they had significantly deeper back pockets and made the Gibson wallet fit like a glove.
But I have a plan to buy a pair of XHSib in 666 cut when they do arrive in stock again.
So I’m curious if we have any Gibson wallet owner that pairs it with Iron Heart jeans. And how well it fits in the back pocket?
Best regards Magnus
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@Brock I picked up a couple myself!
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They’re so cool! How do you like yours?
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Roll call! Checking in
It took me a day to get used to the function. I like how it stays locked in unless you align the two cutouts for the bearings. It feels nice and secure.
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@Oaktavia there’s a lot going on… maybe too much sometimes
