@neph93 I think it was the Self Edge site. Understood, thanks.

@goosehd Will do- thanks.

@sabergirl That’s correct. Yeah, seems to be the case.

@neph93 I think it was the Self Edge site. Understood, thanks.

I’m a big fan of the 633s 14oz, which I’ve I been wearing heavily for two years. So I just got some 633s 18 oz ones, which run about 2 inches smaller in the waist. I’m a 32 in the 14 oz and 34 in the 18 oz. The waist size is correct on the 18 oz but the rest of the cut is wider and baggier. They're not slim/straight fitting jeans. I know you should always follow the measurements on the site, which I thought I did, but these seem like a totally different cut. I’m just wondering how people buy thicker versions of the 633s that fit when the sizing changes so much?

@Jett129 Yeah definitely chilly. BTW I didn't mean it wasn't cold here ( not sure if my post was clear) , I meant it's too cold in NYC to wear the Wills jacket for a good part of the year. I'm in Brooklyn on the west side of Prospect Park.

@chadstone30 Haha

@chadstone30 Oh yeah? I have yet to see anyone in NYC wearing one, which is kinda surprising.

@goosehd Will do- thanks.

@chadstone30 The Grey version is lighter wax/weight sounds much better. Wish that had been an option when I got mine. I have a Medium V2 which I received in 2023.

@Danimal506 Thanks for the reply. I'd imagine it does soften up a but after a lot of wear. I just haven't been able to deal with wearing it enough to get to that point. There isn't a lot of good seasonal weather here in New York for it. It's usually too cold for it. It doesn't retain heat so it's not warm ( and I can't layer much ) but it's too thick for weather that isn't cold. I'm thinking of selling it.

I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this but...just curious if anyone else here finds the Wills Jacket to be unwearable? It's a great jacket, well made, looks nice but I think it's really uncomfortable. Too damn rigid. Plus the sizing runs small so it doesn't allow for much movement or layering. I admire SJ and their business but with all the hype and praise around the Wills jacket Im wondering if there's anyone else who feels this way. I think it would be a much better jacket if it weren't so thick ( And had a blanket lining ).

@Tago Mago. Ok thanks. It seems tricky, that's why I asked. I'll check the link.