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    mclaincausey
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    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

    I like negronis and boulevardiers, but they aren't ideal if you're trying to taste the gin or the whiskey, respectively, with the big flavors and ratios of the other ingredients. I wouldn't want to use a super nuanced gin or whiskey in one. Ymmv

    Think it, be it.

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      pechelman
      啓蒙家
      @mclaincausey
      Joined: 24 Jan 2022

      @mclaincausey 1000% agree. Typically I go for very big, bold, unsubtle representations of those spirits like a tanqueray or rittenhouse rye for those cocktails or anything with another assertive modifier like campari. Though much like a martini or manhattan, ratios can be tweaked to preferences to let the vermouth or base spirit shine more.

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        Tago Mago
        Mod Squad
        Joined: 16 Jan 2021

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        I blame @endo

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          ARNC
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 13 Dec 2020

          Picking up the “Endo made me do it” conversation (Boulevardier strand), the red bitter component can make a surprisingly big difference. I’ve been playing with Campari and Rinomato Bitter Scuro (keeping Cocci Storico Vermouth di Torino and Michter’s US*1 Sour Mash constant). The Rinomato gives a much softer and rounder effect but lacks the distinctive Campari edge. This is the version with 50:50 Rinomato and Campari.

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          “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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            pechelman
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 24 Jan 2022

            Riffing on a classic cocktail called the poet's dream I put this together to celebrate some family who just made it to Machu Picchu. I call it the The Incan Vision. 1.5oz pisco, .75oz dry vermouth, .25oz yellow chartreuse, 1 dash orange bitters, garnish with a twist of lemon.

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            last edited by 17 Feb 2025, 03:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 6
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              SourPower
              Haraki san Expert
              Joined: 10 Mar 2024

              Unnamed Speyside (Macallan) 12yr Single Cask

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              Excess In Moderation

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                Tago Mago
                Mod Squad
                Joined: 16 Jan 2021

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                Tipple du jour

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                  pechelman
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 24 Jan 2022

                  love hampden!

                  enjoy that @Tago-Mago

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                    Tago Mago
                    Mod Squad
                    @pechelman
                    Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                    @pechelman I may have to dig deeper into Jamaican rum. We also have the Worthy Park Single Estate 12, which is fantastic as well

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                      Inorganic
                      Haraki san Student
                      @mclaincausey
                      Joined: 7 Sept 2022

                      @mclaincausey a bottle of Fortaleza is akin to a bar of gold these days...haven't seen that in the PNW in about a year.

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                        mclaincausey
                        見習いボス
                        @Inorganic
                        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                        @Inorganic it was that way here for a couple of years but not hard to find now so maybe your luck will change.

                        I found a bottle of still strength in an Aspen liquor score behind a bottle of blanco. Was over the moon on that one. The cashier asked if I realized it was still strength and I exuberantly confirmed and he let me know it was the last one.

                        There are two other producers whom I esteem about at that level, and I know @Jett129 loves them as well:

                        https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/309-destileria-el-pandillo-s-a-de-c-v

                        https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/249-tequila-cascahuin-s-a

                        I haven’t had a sip from either of these that didn’t compete with Fortaleza in deliciousness.

                        Think it, be it.

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                          Jett129
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                          @Inorganic
                          Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                          @Inorganic I’ve heard it somewhere,possibly on this thread, that Fortaleza is like the new “Pappy” Rarely see it in the NY/NJ area. But as @mclaincausey rightly pointed out you can’t go wrong with anything from NOM1123 or NOM1579.

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                            endo
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 29 May 2020

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                            @ARNC made me do it

                            si tacuisses

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                              ARNC
                              啓蒙家
                              @endo
                              Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                              @endo 🤣

                              Looks good!

                              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                endo
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                                Joined: 29 May 2020

                                it's a very nice alternative to Campari

                                si tacuisses

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                                  Bridger
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  @endo
                                  Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                                  Looks classy @endo

                                  I have never seen a riesling vermouth - would it work in a martini?

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                                    endo
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 29 May 2020

                                    good question @Bridger it's reserved in a pleasant way, could do nicely in a martini if you like the vermouth light

                                    si tacuisses

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                                      Bridger
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      @endo
                                      Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                                      Sounds like further research is required @endo 🍸

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                                      • 68degreesorless6
                                        68degreesorless
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        Joined: 19 Jul 2021

                                        If you like agave spirits, I recommend tracking down some raicilla. It’s kind of a fruiter mezcal without the smoke. Goes awesome with spicy mexi foods or sipped solo.
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                                          mclaincausey
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                                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                          Raicilla is just mezcal produced in Jalisco and maybe some neighboring states. As such, it can have any characteristics a mezcal can have. Unlike tequila, a tightly controlled term, raicillas have more species of agave and production techniques available to them.

                                          This producer steams the piñas, but a raicilla could use a horno or a wood fired oven to cook the piñas and you’d have smoke in the flavor profile.

                                          Conversely, even though most people associate mezcal with smoke, many regions like San Luis Potosí more often use ovens or autoclaves on their piñas, resulting in some expressions with zero smokiness.

                                          Just making sure no one buys a raicilla with expectations it will necessarily be like this one.

                                          La Venenosa has some crazy raicillas. Sierra del Tigre literally tastes like blue cheese. It’s a single distilled product and very primitively produced. One of the wildest tasting spirits you’ll ever love, hate, or be confused by.

                                          Think it, be it.

                                          last edited by mclaincausey 3 Mar 2025, 23:54 3 Mar 2025, 23:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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