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    endo
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    if you like Negronis as much as I do, you might find these thoughts of interest: 1) the gin, ok there are variations, which can be interesting, but it's the (obviously necessary for the booze) but tastewise weakest part of the trio, 2) the amaro. ... it's the amaro, you can go very strong, very sweet, very herbaly, very anything, but it'll aways be the part you don't want to give too much room 3) finally there's the vermouth, IMO the most interesting part to create the negroni you want to consume at a certain place and moment. Recently I found this one. I like the tenderness and ease it gives to the composition. Here and now, perfect for me. You might want to try. (and I might have had 3-4 already).

    si tacuisses

    last edited by endo 2 Jul 2025, 17:56 7 Feb 2025, 17:25 A 1 Reply Last reply 7 Feb 2025, 18:00 Reply Quote 7
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      ARNC
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      @endo
      Joined: 13 Dec 2020

      @endo I think the gin contributes more than you think, but I generally agree. The worst negronis I’ve had were down to bad vermouth. If you’re already 3-4 deep I guess each one tastes better than the last however you make it 😃

      “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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        mclaincausey
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        I like negronis and boulevardiers, but they aren't ideal if you're trying to taste the gin or the whiskey, respectively, with the big flavors and ratios of the other ingredients. I wouldn't want to use a super nuanced gin or whiskey in one. Ymmv

        Think it, be it.

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          pechelman
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          @mclaincausey
          Joined: 24 Jan 2022

          @mclaincausey 1000% agree. Typically I go for very big, bold, unsubtle representations of those spirits like a tanqueray or rittenhouse rye for those cocktails or anything with another assertive modifier like campari. Though much like a martini or manhattan, ratios can be tweaked to preferences to let the vermouth or base spirit shine more.

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            Tago Mago
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            Joined: 16 Jan 2021

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            I blame @endo

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              ARNC
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              Joined: 13 Dec 2020

              Picking up the “Endo made me do it” conversation (Boulevardier strand), the red bitter component can make a surprisingly big difference. I’ve been playing with Campari and Rinomato Bitter Scuro (keeping Cocci Storico Vermouth di Torino and Michter’s US*1 Sour Mash constant). The Rinomato gives a much softer and rounder effect but lacks the distinctive Campari edge. This is the version with 50:50 Rinomato and Campari.

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              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                pechelman
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                Riffing on a classic cocktail called the poet's dream I put this together to celebrate some family who just made it to Machu Picchu. I call it the The Incan Vision. 1.5oz pisco, .75oz dry vermouth, .25oz yellow chartreuse, 1 dash orange bitters, garnish with a twist of lemon.

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                  SourPower
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                  Joined: 10 Mar 2024

                  Unnamed Speyside (Macallan) 12yr Single Cask

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                  Excess In Moderation

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                    Tago Mago
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                    Joined: 16 Jan 2021

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                    Tipple du jour

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                      pechelman
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                      Joined: 24 Jan 2022

                      love hampden!

                      enjoy that @Tago-Mago

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                        Tago Mago
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                        @pechelman
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                        @pechelman I may have to dig deeper into Jamaican rum. We also have the Worthy Park Single Estate 12, which is fantastic as well

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                          Inorganic
                          Haraki san Student
                          @mclaincausey
                          Joined: 7 Sept 2022

                          @mclaincausey a bottle of Fortaleza is akin to a bar of gold these days...haven't seen that in the PNW in about a year.

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                            mclaincausey
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                            @Inorganic
                            Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                            @Inorganic it was that way here for a couple of years but not hard to find now so maybe your luck will change.

                            I found a bottle of still strength in an Aspen liquor score behind a bottle of blanco. Was over the moon on that one. The cashier asked if I realized it was still strength and I exuberantly confirmed and he let me know it was the last one.

                            There are two other producers whom I esteem about at that level, and I know @Jett129 loves them as well:

                            https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/309-destileria-el-pandillo-s-a-de-c-v

                            https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/249-tequila-cascahuin-s-a

                            I haven’t had a sip from either of these that didn’t compete with Fortaleza in deliciousness.

                            Think it, be it.

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                              Jett129
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                              @Inorganic I’ve heard it somewhere,possibly on this thread, that Fortaleza is like the new “Pappy” Rarely see it in the NY/NJ area. But as @mclaincausey rightly pointed out you can’t go wrong with anything from NOM1123 or NOM1579.

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                                endo
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                                @ARNC made me do it

                                si tacuisses

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                                  ARNC
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                                  @endo
                                  Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                                  @endo 🤣

                                  Looks good!

                                  “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                    endo
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                                    it's a very nice alternative to Campari

                                    si tacuisses

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                                      Bridger
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      @endo
                                      Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                                      Looks classy @endo

                                      I have never seen a riesling vermouth - would it work in a martini?

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                                        endo
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                                        Joined: 29 May 2020

                                        good question @Bridger it's reserved in a pleasant way, could do nicely in a martini if you like the vermouth light

                                        si tacuisses

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                                          Bridger
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          @endo
                                          Joined: 3 Mar 2021

                                          Sounds like further research is required @endo 🍸

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