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    • ARNCA
      ARNC
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      @endo I think the gin contributes more than you think, but I generally agree. The worst negronis I’ve had were down to bad vermouth. If you’re already 3-4 deep I guess each one tastes better than the last however you make it 😃

      “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        I like negronis and boulevardiers, but they aren't ideal if you're trying to taste the gin or the whiskey, respectively, with the big flavors and ratios of the other ingredients. I wouldn't want to use a super nuanced gin or whiskey in one. Ymmv

        Think it, be it.

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        • pechelmanP
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          @mclaincausey 1000% agree. Typically I go for very big, bold, unsubtle representations of those spirits like a tanqueray or rittenhouse rye for those cocktails or anything with another assertive modifier like campari. Though much like a martini or manhattan, ratios can be tweaked to preferences to let the vermouth or base spirit shine more.

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          • Tago MagoT
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            I blame @endo

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            • ARNCA
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              Picking up the “Endo made me do it” conversation (Boulevardier strand), the red bitter component can make a surprisingly big difference. I’ve been playing with Campari and Rinomato Bitter Scuro (keeping Cocci Storico Vermouth di Torino and Michter’s US*1 Sour Mash constant). The Rinomato gives a much softer and rounder effect but lacks the distinctive Campari edge. This is the version with 50:50 Rinomato and Campari.

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              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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              • pechelmanP
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                Riffing on a classic cocktail called the poet's dream I put this together to celebrate some family who just made it to Machu Picchu. I call it the The Incan Vision. 1.5oz pisco, .75oz dry vermouth, .25oz yellow chartreuse, 1 dash orange bitters, garnish with a twist of lemon.

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                • SourPowerS
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                  Unnamed Speyside (Macallan) 12yr Single Cask

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                  Excess In Moderation

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                  • Tago MagoT
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                    Tipple du jour

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                    • pechelmanP
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                      love hampden!

                      enjoy that @Tago-Mago

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                      • Tago MagoT
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                        @pechelman I may have to dig deeper into Jamaican rum. We also have the Worthy Park Single Estate 12, which is fantastic as well

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                        • InorganicI
                          Inorganic
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                          @mclaincausey a bottle of Fortaleza is akin to a bar of gold these days...haven't seen that in the PNW in about a year.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            @Inorganic it was that way here for a couple of years but not hard to find now so maybe your luck will change.

                            I found a bottle of still strength in an Aspen liquor score behind a bottle of blanco. Was over the moon on that one. The cashier asked if I realized it was still strength and I exuberantly confirmed and he let me know it was the last one.

                            There are two other producers whom I esteem about at that level, and I know @Jett129 loves them as well:

                            https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/309-destileria-el-pandillo-s-a-de-c-v

                            https://www.tequilamatchmaker.com/distilleries/249-tequila-cascahuin-s-a

                            I haven’t had a sip from either of these that didn’t compete with Fortaleza in deliciousness.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • J
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                              @Inorganic I’ve heard it somewhere,possibly on this thread, that Fortaleza is like the new “Pappy” Rarely see it in the NY/NJ area. But as @mclaincausey rightly pointed out you can’t go wrong with anything from NOM1123 or NOM1579.

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                              • endoE
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                                @ARNC made me do it

                                si tacuisses

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                                • ARNCA
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                                  @endo 🤣

                                  Looks good!

                                  “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                  • endoE
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                                    it's a very nice alternative to Campari

                                    si tacuisses

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                                    • B
                                      Bridger
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                                      Looks classy @endo

                                      I have never seen a riesling vermouth - would it work in a martini?

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                                      • endoE
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                                        good question @Bridger it's reserved in a pleasant way, could do nicely in a martini if you like the vermouth light

                                        si tacuisses

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                                        • B
                                          Bridger
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                                          Sounds like further research is required @endo 🍸

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                                          • 68degreesorless6
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                                            If you like agave spirits, I recommend tracking down some raicilla. It’s kind of a fruiter mezcal without the smoke. Goes awesome with spicy mexi foods or sipped solo.
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