Denim tailor or not?
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Looks to big to me
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Same here. I can also see the top of your thigh but there is plenty room there. With the 888 cut you can size down and the thigh measurement doesn't move as much as other cuts.
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@yannis upper thigh is not the issue, it's the mid thigh. Still snug in the mid thigh on this pair. No way could I size down and have enough room in the mid thigh, it would be uncomfortably tight. I've already purchased this pair. So I more wanted to get advice on if a tailor would work.
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I don't think those look as bad as you feel they do. My 888 xhs have a bit of extra material in the back and I just deal with it. They soften after wears and washes and they settle down some. What weight fabric is that? If it’s xhs, I doubt a tailor could help you.
Possibly with 21oz but that’s a tough alteration. I would see if they get better for you after some wears and a few washes (if you are willing to put up with them), and then sell them if you decide they aren’t going to work.
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@jordanscollected Yeah, I see your point. The tailor seems pretty good, so I'm really thinking about it. It's the 21oz fabric, so yeah wondering if this will get a little better. Selling them off is an option, but I might as well get some use out of them because I could probably get $150 maybe for them. Damn I really learned my fit lesson the hard way.
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@jpvisual said:
Damn I really learned my fit lesson the hard way.
A lot of us did as well. It's just all part of the journey.
For what it's worth, I agree with @jordanscollected that it doesn't look terrible and it may settle after some wear.
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I also agree with the last two answers, they don't look bad at all to me.
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The jeans will settle with wear and the barely noticeable bagginess in the seat will disappear. Better to just wear em and forget it. Enjoy the comfort and freedom of movement. A tailor may or may not get good results—and for a minimal issue seems like a gamble that isn’t worth it.
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Here’s how mine look in the back. They aren’t perfect, but it doesn’t stop the girls (and some guys if I’m being honest), from going in for a pinch.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, much appreciated! You all convinced me for now to ride it out. I have no idea how this 21oz denim changes over time. First pair of high end denim. @Giles when you say it's a major job to take in the seat do you mean it's easier for a good tailor to mess up the fit and/or ruin the structure and integrity of the jeans, that it's a lot of work or all the above?
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The fit of the top block looks like a good 888 fit. They are roomy on purpose. If you want a more fitted top block then I’d argue 888 is not the cut.
I like the look of them, and the thigh will definitely relax with wear. Some mild discomfort at the start is rarely a problem after a couple of weeks wear.
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@jpvisual I’ll wager Giles fears all of the above. You have to pick the seams at the most complex part of the jeans then reconstruct them. You’d need a denim specialist, and you’ll almost certainly weaken the jean at the points that are exposed to the most stress. The fit after the work will be a lottery.
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It's a massive job requiring specialist machinery (we have 13 separate sewing machines in our jeans production line). I cant see it not being completely screwed up; fit, integrity, look, you name it, and if you have to move the rear pockets to retain the visual balance, that is another story altogether. Then assuming you've got the arse looking good, where do the side seams end up, and what do you do about the excess waist band fabric? I would not ask one of our seamstresses to do it.
Basically what @neph93 just said
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They’ll look just fine after the denim settles. The good thing about clothes like this is the resale value. That goes down considerably once you start making alterations. Even hemming makes stuff harder to sell.
I like having different cuts in my line up. Having just one fit would be boring.
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What many have said. I think they are fine roomy 888 fit. 21oz will settle rather quickly. If you were after tighter jeans I believe you are pretty unlucky with muscular lower body. Cuts are quite limited across all japanise brands
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@Matt good to know! @aksu yeah, I'm finding it difficult to get a slim fit look. Mid thigh has been an issue across all cuts so far. I tried the 777 and that was a joke trying to fit my legs in those. Looking forward to seeing how this pair changes. I'm going to try the 1955S cut. Since the thigh does not taper I should be able to fit the waist top block properly without it being an issues in the legs and get a slim look out of them. I also dig the mid/high rise cuts. Thanks again everyone!
