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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Why is everyone such a fucking creep? Cormac McCarthy and Neil Gaiman, looking at you.

      Think it, be it.

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      • flannel slutF
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        @mclaincausey oh no. Much respect for their work but know nothing of them outside some good reads. What kind of shenanigans they get into?

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          @flannel-slut McCarthy’s thing is kind of old but at age 42 he picked up a 16 year old at a motel pool. Gaiman has a bunch of credible and extremely creepy accusations of sexual misconduct, exploiting power dynamics to do so.

          Then we have stories about Danny Elfman and others to add more wood to my bonfire of misanthropy.

          Think it, be it.

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          • flannel slutF
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            @mclaincausey was my guess but wasn’t finding anything specific… all too common 😔

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            • SKTS
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              @mclaincausey I think the Gaiman things feels particularly egregious to me because he consistently identified as a supporter of women and feminism. That article detailing the allegations against him was really disturbing.

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              • SKTS
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                Also, Ryan Adams pulled the same type of shit if I remember correctly

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  @SKT yeah exactly, the layer of hypocrisy doesn’t help.

                  And Ryan Adams had whatever issues he had—I don’t know all the details—but at a minimum he was using his celebrity and connections to promise things to romantic interests, and then threatening to destroy them professionally when they didn’t reciprocate. So, while reprehensible and unacceptable, what I’ve read about him isn’t as bad as sexual assault attached to Gaiman, and he could have rehabilitated himself and his career. His fans seemed by and large to be ready to forgive his Weinstein-isms if he could have just gotten back to doing music. But when he had that opportunity, he went full Morrissey, going batshit crazy on tour and messing it up. The man is deeply unwell.

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • SKTS
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                    You’re right and I should have been more careful to lump Adams in with Gaiman. Not the same level of offenses but in the same orbit…abusing a power dynamic.

                    And I need to look into his tour/comeback…I didn’t even know he made the attempt.

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      @SKT I found an article / concert review that echoes a lot of what I saw on reddit.

                      https://891khol.org/op-ed-when-youve-fallen-from-grace-have-some-grace/

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • todyT
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                        As we have a no politics rule around here, let me ask a legal question instead:
                        How many times would I be able to reload for it still to be considered self defense?

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                        • WhiskeySandwichW
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                          @tody depends on how many times you miss....

                          "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                          -Seneca

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                            @tody @WhiskeySandwich You guys reminded me of the joke...What do you do if you miss your Mother-in -Law?...Reload!

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                            • MattM
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                              Depends on which state you’re in.

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                              • todyT
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                                it certainly feels like the state of confusion.

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                                  Guess this can go here.
                                  Long live Nick.

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                                  • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                    @tody forgive the pun, but i feel like this is a 'loaded' question.
                                    I can't help but assume you're referring to a situation in which someone 'eliminates a threat', yet reloads and continues to fire into said threat long after it has expired. That is a heavily situationally-dependent and subjective scenario and would likely come down to the discretion of a jury.
                                    Having said that, it seems that if one were to reload AFTER the threat has expired, then one would most likely be considered to have exceeded a reasonable measure of deadly force. Of course this is also subjective and would depend on the initiating threat level of the one being defended against, which would have to be assumed to also have presented a deadly threat. Of course at that point you could bring up the question: "How dead is too dead?"

                                    Sorry for the brain dump, feel free to tell me to shut it.

                                    "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                    -Seneca

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      ...and probably a good time to end this conversation. Other forums better suited to self defence than here...

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • todyT
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                                        @WhiskeySandwich @goosehd I'll try to resolve it - I was trying to make a sarcastic comment on yesterday's political development in Germany. hence the first part of my post addressing the no politics rule, and thus the second part asking when desperate measures are still self defense. @Tago-Mago nudged in the same direction today in the music thread, but that went rather unnoticed.
                                        Let's finish this here. I promise I won't turn on the evening news today.

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                                        • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                          @tody AH, that went over my head completely. Yeah i dont watch 'the news', i could do a whole rant about that on its own..... but i'll save it because it would probably be more appropriate for the "unpopular opinions" thread. Sorry, i was unaware of any political developments in Germany, so my comments stand alone and don't reference that.

                                          @goosehd sorry, just saw you had said something too. I hope my above-stated ignorance of the specific situation allows me some grace lol

                                          "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                          -Seneca

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            Thank you both for clarification and a great spot to end this rant. Next please..,

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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