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    • JunkPantsJ
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      @bobbychacha said in Indigo invitational Y4:

      @JunkPants said in Indigo invitational Y4:

      Could hardly believe it when I saw the top 3 for ROW.

      First and second place for ROW were wildcards. For an event like this I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have judges whose aesthetic sense is at odds with the community.

      This is the part that irks me the most - why even bother with a voting round when ultimately the community’s voice is overridden by the judges? To me this really taints the results as it feels like the winners were almost forced onto the podium for some reason.

      Yep. "To all of you passionate and dedicated denim enthusiasts, who put in the work for a whole year and made it all possible: Thank you for your input, but we know better." 😂 😆

      To be clear I'm joking/exaggerating here. I actually think the Indigo Invitational is great, and am looking forward to joining again for Y5. I'm also too slow of a fader to ever be in the running for a top spot, so I have no disappointments related to my own placing.

      That said, it seems clear to me that they've yet to perfect the voting/judging system. And I can definitely see how the results may sour some people on the whole thing.

      Figuring out a way to have it be more democratised as you say seems like a good idea to me.

      @bobbychacha said in Indigo invitational Y4:

      I would honestly like to see judging end at the initial down-select, then have it all democratised and decided by those who put in the time and effort to cross the finish line. I think it would be awesome to have a playoff bracket where the judges’ top 50 gets thinned out and seeded into a bracket based on votes. Then there would be subsequent voting rounds to decided who advances. The championship could be the “ROW conference” winner vs the “SEA conference” winner. Maybe I’ve had too much tequila and am a little too excited for the Eagles game tomorrow, but I think I might be on to something….🤣🤪

      This should in fact be happening! From the Y4 Rulebook:
      • First place finishers from each conference will go head-to-head to determine our overall winner.

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      • bobbychachaB
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        @JunkPants said in Indigo invitational Y4:

        To be clear I'm joking/exaggerating here. I actually think the Indigo Invitational is great, and am looking forward to joining again for Y5. I'm also too slow of a fader to ever be in the running for a top spot, so I have no disappointments related to my own placing.

        Yeah, I’m right there with you - I had no illusions that I had a shot at winning. I am mainly upset with the process and pissed that other contestants in this forum who IMO had more impressive fades AND were voted into the top 16 got the shaft. That said, I already have my Y5 pair 🤣

        This should in fact be happening! From the Y4 Rulebook:
        • First place finishers from each conference will go head-to-head to determine our overall winner.

        That will be…interesting. I wonder which judges get to decide that?

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        • JunkPantsJ
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          @bobbychacha said in Indigo invitational Y4:

          @JunkPants said in Indigo invitational Y4:

          This should in fact be happening! From the Y4 Rulebook:
          • First place finishers from each conference will go head-to-head to determine our overall winner.

          That will be…interesting. I wonder which judges get to decide that?

          I would assume it would be all the judges, but who knows.

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          • Davids_denimD
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            I vote we just have Ruedi Karrer be the sole judge of the entire thing. 🤣

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            • olblueO
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              @Davids_denim I’m going to second this notion. Have been listening to yall on the board and couldn’t agree more. For all transparency I saw this as a battle between James and Cade. Couldn’t be happier more for the folks who got it just cuz they’re some solid folks but overall the community lost on this one. I feel like that’s the overall disservice. Folks who truly love denim and see the art in it versuses judges who aren’t necessarily as convicted or appreciate what the overall community sees as the best of the best. @Jcaz6996 to me personally you were my overall…just want to say brother fucking solid beautiful pair of jeans.

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              • Davids_denimD
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                @olblue the wife and I were just talking about this very thing. I can’t imagine finding judges is easy for Bryan so I don’t really blame him but I think I would prefer judges who have properly faded denim and are as passionate as we are.
                All that being said I’m really happy for Scott he’s a cool dude and my UHR brother. I basically just tried to keep up with him the whole time.

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                • BrianB
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                  I understand that adding a bit of bleach when washing isn’t against the rules but jeez if that isn’t gaining a massive advantage
                  Might aswell just ask everyone to buy a pair of stone washed and be done with it

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                  • AlexA
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                    @Davids_denim said in Indigo invitational Y4:

                    I vote we just have Ruedi Karrer be the sole judge of the entire thing. 🤣

                    was he not already one of the judges of the ROW group?

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                    • Jcaz6996J
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                      @olblue Thank you pal really means a lot to have your support and each of you on the forum I know @kasi always has my back .. 👍

                      It’s a tough one to get my head around, what these judges were actually looking at it definitely wasn’t the pairs of hard core faders.

                      Obviously I’ve messaged Bryan saying how disappointed I am with the results I know it’s out of his hands , his reply :

                      Some of the judges saw the fades the same way you do. Others didn’t. I’ve said it before, I think you’re one of the very best at the style of fading that’s my particular favourite.
                      But the judging is an aggregate of different passions and perspectives.

                      Looks like can’t please everyone , I’ve had some kind support on instagram from one of the very best to fade denim who shares the same passion and turns it into Art that person would make a perfect judge Adam Welch .

                      Ruedi not so much he likes all sorts of evolution even if it’s not the most natural, sand scrubs etc

                      So if I had to recommend a judge I would go for Adam ..

                      IG : @luvthefades

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                      • KasiK
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                        Yeah definitely Adam he a master fader to

                        Need come back on Forum

                        The world's insane
                        While you drink champagne
                        And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                        • OaktaviaO
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                          I was talking with Adam about this last night as a matter of fact. I think he would be the best judge for this sort of thing. His careful consideration of being able to see things how they are and past all the BS would be unmatched.

                          IG: electricindigowizard

                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                          WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                          • KasiK
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                            @Alex

                            I know what happen. Back with Adam unbanned him now if there is a chance

                            He ain’t no Jeff

                            The world's insane
                            While you drink champagne
                            And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                            • Davids_denimD
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                              @Alex i think he was last year maybe, he’s not this year.

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                              • Davids_denimD
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                                • KasiK
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                                  What a joke seriously.

                                  😟 fake judges, denim experts. 🤣🤣

                                  The world's insane
                                  While you drink champagne
                                  And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                  • KasiK
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                                    @Jcaz6996

                                    Champion of all time the GOAT

                                    Don’t let it fuck with your head.

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                                    The world's insane
                                    While you drink champagne
                                    And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                    • Cents or Non CentsC
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                                      @Brian said in Indigo invitational Y4:

                                      I understand that adding a bit of bleach when washing isn’t against the rules but jeez if that isn’t gaining a massive advantage
                                      Might aswell just ask everyone to buy a pair of stone washed and be done with it

                                      Who was adding bleach to their washing schedule?

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                                      • olblueO
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                                        Big congrats to my boys who made that 10, I definitely saw some of you higher…but regardless of the judging yall are my champs @Jcaz6996 @32oz_denim @denim-dawg cheers boys 🍻

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                                        • Davids_denimD
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                                          @olblue always gonna be upset people at the end of a competition. Sorry you didn’t crack the top 10 man yours were definitely one of my favs.

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                                          • OaktaviaO
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                                            @olblue your pair should have been in the top 10 at the least. Judging failed this competition.

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                                            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                            WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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