Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?

[Karol]

@goosehd said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

Found this quote from @Giles in the 666-XHS thread:

@Giles said in IH-666-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo:

We became aware today that on the latest batch of IH-666-XHS, we used the wrong patch.  We used the 21oz patch (but did stamp them IH-666-XHS).  If you have a pair of these mongrels, get in touch and we will sort you out.  Haraki is sending the correct patches for retro-fitting.

If, on the other hand you want a collectors item, get in quick….....

There we go! @goosehd for the rescue!

[Matt]

Very interesting. It doesn’t account for the other “issues” though (eg. copper buttons, backwards W and apparent thickness).

[goosehd]

@Karol Definitely not saying they're fake or legitimate at this point...there are too many red flags for me at the moment.

1. Denim doesn't look right
2. W facing wrong direction
3. button on jean being unbranded
4. wrong tag

I give anyone of those a chance at being legitimate, but all of them together and I have my doubts.

[Karol]

@goosehd said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

@Karol Definitely not saying they're fake or legitimate at this point...there are too many red flags for me at the moment.

1. Denim doesn't look right
2. W facing wrong direction
3. button on jean being unbranded
4. wrong tag

I give anyone of those a chance at being legitimate, but all of them together and I have my doubts.

Ohh yea, no doubts there are still questions, but Your find is the first solid clue of any sort so far.

[Alexey164]

@Oaktavia I bought them secondhand, they are in excellent condition, I saw similar buttons in models for Indonesia, the denim does not look 21 ounces as indicated on the patch, perhaps some kind of lightweight version. the seller explained that this is a collaboration. but the workmanship matches the true iron heart

[goosehd]

@Alexey164 ...to be honest, my gut is screaming these are fake and I hope you didn't pay too much.

Edit...and I don't put a lot of faith in the "collaboration" story to explain all of the red flags.

[Alexey164]

@goosehd I paid $200 for them, but again, judging by the quality of the seams, denim, salvage edges, it seems like this is some kind of special version

[Giles]

Ask what the "special" collaboration was. If it was a lightweight collab, there is virtually zero chance it would be stamped XHS.

[Giles]

And we used those bronze unbranded fly buttons on quite a few different models, so that does not mean that they are fake.

[goosehd]

@Giles Thanks G for posting that picture...one I was unaware of and appreciate the knowledge!

[Giles]

That is from the DC4001's

[goosehd]

Does anyone else think that the button's look mangled compared to the picture that Giles just posted?

[Giles]

What I want to know is does the denim feel like XHS, if not, then they are likely fake.

[Alexey164]

@Giles

[Giles]

I cant tell from pics I am afraid. Try weighing them.

[pechelman]

to my non-expert eye, that looks like 25oz denim. Picked out arcs, right stitching and construction, branded stamps on rivets, etc.

If you were to fold these up as if they sat at a store, how thick are they? Can you weigh them? Do you have other IH jeans to compare that to?

[Alexey164]

@Alexey164

[Alexey164]

@pechelman

[pechelman]

@Alexey164 I was asking for the thickness when folded.
Real 25oz is a really chunky fabric and about ~2x as tall when folded as my 21oz'ers iirc.

[Alexey164]

@pechelman