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    • chucklandoC
      chucklando
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      I saw that shirt in an email update from Withered Fig. Thought the same thing, not cool that it’s nearly the same pattern

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      • todyT
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        A quick legal insight: the colour and pattern of a garment can, even if not registered, be protected as an 'unregistered community design' in the EU. Protection is 3 years from the date on which the design was first made available to the public. Obviously, I haven't got a clue if there are comparable laws in Japan.
        Not suggesting anything, but there are companies out there suing each other for exactly this kind of shitty behaviour!

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        • OaktaviaO
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          @Alex said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

          too close to our nanny release for my liking

          But the anny UHF looks eons better than this shitty imitation.

          IG: electricindigowizard

          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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          • KasiK
            Kasi
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            bloody sue them

            The world's insane
            While you drink champagne
            And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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            • october rustO
              october rust
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              Idk, seems kind of shitty of Withered Fig to simultaneously sell that while collaborating with IH

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              • EdHE
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                I had to do a double take, but there are a number of distinguishing features in the shirt itself (single yoke, button flaps, pocket shapes, buttons not snaps) and in the colours used in the sax pattern (the UES one has no red or grey) when you look closely. Would require experienced IP counsel (which I am not) to advise on this one if IH was minded to make a big deal of it.

                Take the dive...

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                • ARNCA
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                  Again, this is at the periphery of what I do, but enforcing unregistered rights can be hard work. Even if IH won, I wonder if there would be any worthwhile remedies as the anny shirt has been and gone. It could be different if we were looking at a continuous production item. As it is, is there any real damage apart from @Alex being somewhat narked (important but maybe not worth the hassle/expense of going to war)?

                  “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                  • AlexA
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                    Thanks, guys. At this point, the biggest deal I will make about it is bitching about it here 🙂

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                    • MattM
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                      We’re here to listen friend. Not really but saying that a lot has kept me married for 16 years so I figured it would work here too.

                      Also, the original design is from a long time ago so that 3 year statute probably would have expired.

                      Let’s just say imitation is the highest form of flattery.

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                      • Tom LongarmsT
                        Tom Longarms
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                        Sorry if that has been done before and I’m not aware it’s a thing, but have you guys seen indigofera over dyed flannel that came out the other day? I instantly thought of IH one coming in the future.

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                        • AlexA
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                          IF did this several years ago too - can't blame them for doing it again, and was not inspired by our announcement!

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                          • OaktaviaO
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                            Screenshot_20230928_192012_eBay.jpg

                            🤔

                            IG: electricindigowizard

                            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                            WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                            • darbycrashD
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                              i think this is a fake. i noticed the top zipper doesn't have the leather pull strip and the draw strings on the bottom dont look right. neither do the sleeve cuffs in the photos where they are turned inside out. ships from japan, link to the listing below. there are several identical listings from different sellers too.
                              jacket1.jpeg
                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/296002908606

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                              • todyT
                                tody
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                                I am pretty sure this is legit. There are quite a few sellers in Japan reselling the stuff on eBay. If I'm not mistaken, the pictures are taken straight off the IH Japan site: https://ironheart.shop-pro.jp/?pid=174961131

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                                • october rustO
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                                  What also muddies the waters now is that a ton of Ebay accounts are basically just proxies for items listed for sale on the Japanese auction sites. You'll see 20 people list the same item for sale at a markup hoping that someone buys through them.

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                                  • MattM
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                                    The stuff is legit but you go to buy it and they’re like, Whoops, it’s sold already. I hate that.

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      One of the main reasons I ask for individuals to post pictures of their actual items in the forum’s marketplace. You may think it’s a pain in the ass, but at least you know that what you’re buying is actually what you’re buying…

                                      Too many people trying to make a quick buck out there now with all kinds of schemes going on. The secondary luxury watch market is nuts and probably goes for the rest of the luxury markets…

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • darbycrashD
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                                        @tody ah yeah youre right. so i guess the japanese version is actually different from the western one.

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          No it is not

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • darbycrashD
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                                            @Giles im just noticing these slight details that seem to be different is all --
                                            western:
                                            IHM-37-BLKusa.jpeg IHM-37-BLKusazip.jpeg
                                            jp:

                                            jpjacket.jpeg
                                            i dont mean to say the actual piece is any different. this is what threw me off when trying to determine whether or not the ebay listing i was looking at was legit.

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