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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    • OaktaviaO
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      @neph93:

      @weegeebee1:

      This thread needs more photos.

      Truer words have never been spoken, and that was quite the follow up. That shocker looks splendid. Good write up too.

      Yes, I agree with these statements. Keep an eye out for the Extractor thread, which is the Type III jacket version of the same leather, only a little bit thicker. I have been wearing mine this season and it's really starting to evolve. I'll post there soon and give a bit of a rundown.

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      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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        I also went through the recent ReLove release. I'm 5'10 180 lbs. Went with a large. I usually enjoy wearing my UHF as a M and only wear them unbuttoned. I was a bit worried about the chest being too tight so decided to size up. Based on initial stiffness i'm glad I did. Not sure if I would've lasted in a M. The only downside for me sizing up is the back tends to flare out like a shell when it's unbuttoned. And the area around my shoulders/biceps are a bit loose. But i'm sure as it softens that will ease up.

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        • R
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          @weegeebee1:

          This thread needs more photos.

          This is one from my IG this morning:  https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1WZAfrtFE/

          Really love how it has evolved with only 1 week of wearing and maybe 10 hours or so hanging in the sun.  It's definitely still stiff.  I'm going to hit it with some Pecards in a few weeks.  I'm still getting a little bit of the button popping that others have mentioned, but it's dramatically improved.  I think the main issue is the double thick leather with the pockets and the folded over placket doesn't allow for much movement across the chest until it's broken in.  The arm holes are also high and tight. I notice most, if not all of us, are getting that pinching around the arm pits.  Putting in some all day and all night wears to get this baby broken in some more, but it's super nice and will only get better as it settles in.

          The size is XL.  For reference I'm 6'0 and 185lbs.  It was a small XL though, like 22.25 ptp kind of thing.  I would have loved to have gotten closer to spec XL, but since this was a lucky cop on the recent reloved listing, I'm not going to get too picky.  The snap marks and other blemishes are nothing in the long scope of thing.  In fact, I've really thought about picking up that last XXL to have as more of an overshirt, but I think that one will be too big and with the stiffness, will just look funny.

          This looks awesome man!  What did you use to condition it or is that golden color all sun?  Thanks!

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            weegeebee1
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            This looks awesome man!  What did you use to condition it or is that golden color all sun?  Thanks!

            Thanks.  It's definitely getting there quicker than I thought.

            I used Skidmores.  It's awesome stuff (but see my comment below).  An old timer upholstery guy told me about it.  There's a trick where you put it on leather, and then put the leather in a black trash bag, and put it out in the sun for a couple days.  Helps it penetrate.  I didn't do that part yet because weather has been cold and cloudy for most part.  So it just got a simple coat, rubbed on with my fingers.  (insert Silence of Lambs joke now)  😛

            In hindsight, I should have waited though.  It has beeswax and some other stuff, and I think that added to the rigidness.  I was just eager to get some color going with the oil in it (which I'm pretty sure is linseed oil).

            Once it gets some more sun and more importantly more wears and I feel that softer texture popping, I'm going to put some Pecards on it.  It's basically fancy vaseline, which in theory should soften the leather.

            I'm pretty sure that I read the pale rider leather is veg tanned, but it kind of feels more chrome tanned to me.  I wonder if it was combo tanned or maybe there's just some sort of top coat.  The reason I ask is with all my leather jackets, I've found pecards works better on CXL type stuff because even though it has some beeswax in it, it's mostly vaseline.  You really don't want to add more wax to heavily wax treated leather.  So I use the Skidmores for more of the veg tanned stuff and that's why I grabbed it first for the pale rider.

            All that being said, a good shade or two did come from the sun.  Reason I know is because I got stuck out one day, and only one side got tanned, and it was noticeable.

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              @marco23d:

              I also went through the recent ReLove release. I'm 5'10 180 lbs. Went with a large. I usually enjoy wearing my UHF as a M and only wear them unbuttoned. I was a bit worried about the chest being too tight so decided to size up. Based on initial stiffness i'm glad I did. Not sure if I would've lasted in a M. The only downside for me sizing up is the back tends to flare out like a shell when it's unbuttoned. And the area around my shoulders/biceps are a bit loose. But i'm sure as it softens that will ease up.

              That is awesome fit.  A hair wide on the shoulders, but that'll settle with time.  I think the L was almost the same exact measurements as the XL I got.  I bashed the add to cart so fast and didn't notice the measurements until afterward.  Ain't going to lie, I'd love another .5 inch on the shoulders and maybe another .25 on the ptp.  But, as the leather breaks in and drapes better, I think it'll wear more like a shirt, which is the point I think.

              Right now, I feel like I'm wearing a jacket cut like a shirt LOL.  So it's in that transformation period, but I see the upside with more time and wears

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              • goosehdG
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                Settling in nicely  🙂

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • AdamCA
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                  Yes @goosehd shirt it is looking sick!

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                  • Pipeboss713P
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                    @weegeebee1:

                    @marco23d:

                    I also went through the recent ReLove release. I'm 5'10 180 lbs. Went with a large. I usually enjoy wearing my UHF as a M and only wear them unbuttoned. I was a bit worried about the chest being too tight so decided to size up. Based on initial stiffness i'm glad I did. Not sure if I would've lasted in a M. The only downside for me sizing up is the back tends to flare out like a shell when it's unbuttoned. And the area around my shoulders/biceps are a bit loose. But i'm sure as it softens that will ease up.

                    That is awesome fit.  A hair wide on the shoulders, but that'll settle with time.  I think the L was almost the same exact measurements as the XL I got.  I bashed the add to cart so fast and didn't notice the measurements until afterward.  Ain't going to lie, I'd love another .5 inch on the shoulders and maybe another .25 on the ptp.  But, as the leather breaks in and drapes better, I think it'll wear more like a shirt, which is the point I think.

                    Right now, I feel like I'm wearing a jacket cut like a shirt LOL.  So it's in that transformation period, but I see the upside with more time and wears

                    This was everything I needed to hear
                    I typically wear a medium uhf
                    Jumped on the medium pale rider and I was kinda regretting not going with large but I’m hoping it will settle in the shoulders and stretch a bit in the shoulders and p2p

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                    • Bums_FanB
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                      @goosehd @marco23d @weegeebee1 thank you for posting pics.  Each example is on point!  Not sure if I can resist the urge to secure one of these in the future  😃

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                        • GilesG
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                          Not really, it will reduce over time as the loose bits abrade away…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • R
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                            @Rack0:

                            This looks awesome man!  What did you use to condition it or is that golden color all sun?  Thanks!

                            Thanks.  It's definitely getting there quicker than I thought.

                            I used Skidmores.  It's awesome stuff (but see my comment below).  An old timer upholstery guy told me about it.  There's a trick where you put it on leather, and then put the leather in a black trash bag, and put it out in the sun for a couple days.  Helps it penetrate.  I didn't do that part yet because weather has been cold and cloudy for most part.  So it just got a simple coat, rubbed on with my fingers.  (insert Silence of Lambs joke now)  😛

                            In hindsight, I should have waited though.  It has beeswax and some other stuff, and I think that added to the rigidness.  I was just eager to get some color going with the oil in it (which I'm pretty sure is linseed oil).

                            Once it gets some more sun and more importantly more wears and I feel that softer texture popping, I'm going to put some Pecards on it.  It's basically fancy vaseline, which in theory should soften the leather.

                            I'm pretty sure that I read the pale rider leather is veg tanned, but it kind of feels more chrome tanned to me.  I wonder if it was combo tanned or maybe there's just some sort of top coat.  The reason I ask is with all my leather jackets, I've found pecards works better on CXL type stuff because even though it has some beeswax in it, it's mostly vaseline.  You really don't want to add more wax to heavily wax treated leather.  So I use the Skidmores for more of the veg tanned stuff and that's why I grabbed it first for the pale rider.

                            All that being said, a good shade or two did come from the sun.  Reason I know is because I got stuck out one day, and only one side got tanned, and it was noticeable.

                            Thanks!  The trash bag idea is pretty interesting…. I've never heard of it!

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                              weegeebee1
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                              Fellow Pale Riders, I tried a coat of Pecards.  Highly, highly, strongly, strongly recommend it.  Shirt instantly turned supple.  It does add about a shade or two of color and some shininess.  The latter will dull out in a few days from my other experiences applying to various jackets.

                              Besides the aesthetics, I don't know how to describe it, but it just made wearing the shirt a lot more comfortable.  I know it didn't "stretch" the leather, but it gave it some give.  I mentioned before, the main note is about the areas of the shirt where the leather is doubled up (placket, pockets, etc.),  I can now feel and see it easing better in those areas.

                              Big thumbs up.

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                              • DmartD
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                                This looks fantastic And the fit is on point if you ask me.

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                                  @Dmart:

                                  This looks fantastic And the fit is on point if you ask me.

                                  thanks, brother.  Just need to stay clear of any egg nog and treats for the next couple months  😉

                                  I was a little worried when I first got it, but with a few wears it started easing some.  I'm still getting one button pop, the one right below the pockets. But that's if I'm really trying to push the extreme of range. It's definitely more pinched in that area, but again, I think it's mostly the thicker leather across the bottom of the chest that's not flexing.  10 wears + the pecards made a huge difference.  Worst case, just need a hair or two more with future wears, and I won't even fuss about it.  Definite first world problems here.

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                                    The shirt is definitely starting to settle and I’m loving the fit more and more. Excited for the shoulder area to soften up a bit. They look a bit better when the sleeves are unbuttoned but my hope is to wear the shirt with the sleeves buttoned. Still debating on breaking it in or just growing 25 inch pythons on both arms.

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                                    • Pipeboss713P
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                                      @marco23d:

                                      The shirt is definitely starting to settle and I’m loving the fit more and more. Excited for the shoulder area to soften up a bit. They look a bit better when the sleeves are unbuttoned but my hope is to wear the shirt with the sleeves buttoned. Still debating on breaking it in or just growing 25 inch pythons on both arms.

                                      That looks perfect
                                      I have a medium, wish I woulda went large

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                                      • Link-Of-TimeL
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                                        Any plans to restock in 2023?

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                                        • AlexA
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                                          @Link-Of-Time Yes, they are in production as we speak. Should be relatively soon

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                                          • Link-Of-TimeL
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                                            @Alex Oh awesome, cheers!

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