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IH-888S-UHR - 21/23oz Ultra Heavy Raw Selvedge Denim High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans

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    pmadison95
    Haraki san Prodigy
    Joined: 10 Jun 2022

    I have saw this done before but I just received my pair today and wanted to try it out. And yes they will stand on there own .

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @pmadison95:

      I have saw this done before but I just received my pair today and wanted to try it out. And yes they will stand on there own .

      Never fails to impress! I’m slightly embarrassed to say that despite 3 pairs of UHR and 2 pairs of XHS over the last 10 years, I have never managed this trick.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        GardenState
        Haraki san Expert
        Joined: 24 Jan 2021

        These and the 19Ls are so good. Had to do everything in my power not to buy either.

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          pmadison95
          Haraki san Prodigy
          Joined: 10 Jun 2022

          Yeah the 23oz is really stiff before it is soaked. Turning them inside out was a chore and so was fastening the buttons even after soak. Overall they have softened up quite a bit after a hot soak and wash. I can see why there has been so much hype for this fabric.

          last edited by 2 Oct 2022, 09:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Zecyon
            Joined: 12 Jan 2022

            Question, IH Army - I am currently at a crossroads between a size 29 and a 30 in the UHR. I have both a pair of 888S-21oz and the 888-SBG-21oz. Measurements below:

            IH-888S-21
            TAG SIZE 30
            W - 15.4
            FR - 11.2
            BR - 15.75
            TH - 12.25
            KN - 8.45
            H - 7.25

            IH-SBG-21
            TAG SIZE 31
            W - 15.4
            FR - 11.4
            BR - 16
            TH - 12.2
            KN - 8.3
            H - 7.5

            IH-888-UHR
            TAG SIZE 29
            W - 14.75
            FR - 11.3
            BR - 15.7
            TH - 12.1
            KN - 8.4
            H - 7.6

            IH-888-UHR
            TAG SIZE 30
            W - 15.45
            FR - 11.5
            BR - 16
            TH - 12.3
            KN - 8.6
            H - 7.9

            Comparing the measurements to the UHR's, a size 30 looks pretty solid for me to shrink and then stretch back out but the hem and knee seem rather large comparative to my other pairs. For the 29, I risk them being a little tight after the initial soak/agitation stage but this would mean I would need to stretch them back to around their original measurements (maybe even past them in the waist). For veterans with the UHR, what would you guys recommend? I am leaning towards a 30 and shrinking the absolute hell out of them (I can make my bath/washer water as hot as I need) but just wanted a second opinion as others have said they stretch like CRAZY if put under pressure. Thanks in advance!

            last edited by 11 Dec 2022, 07:13 12 Nov 2022, 05:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              popvulture
              見習いボス
              Joined: 2 Oct 2018

              In my experience, they should fit the way you want them to fit before you soak. They do stretch back out especially in the areas that get a lot of tension, like the waist — the other areas not so much. But overall they don’t shrink that much (or at least mine didn’t with two pretty scalding hot soaks). Mine shrank a bit, quickly stretched back out to original spec in the waist, and haven’t stretched much past that, if any.

              If they were to be a bit on the snug side pre-soak, you might get even more stretch just because of the increased tension, but I’ll let someone else verify that hunch.

              WTB
              IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
              Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                neph93
                見習いボス
                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                @Zecyon:

                Question, IH Army - I am currently at a crossroads between a size 29 and a 30 in the UHR.

                I would say the W30. Judging by the pairs you own I think you would struggle with the waist on the W29.

                Generally, UHR iterations are a little wider in the leg due to the nature the denim, but the leg measurmemts you’re concerned about will shrink, but won’t stretch much.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

                • Virginia Woolf
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                  popvulture
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                  I’d definitely agree with that, based on the 30’s consistency with your other pairs.

                  WTB
                  IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                  Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

                  last edited by 12 Nov 2022, 13:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    weftyarn
                    Iron Heart Deity
                    Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                    I have both the 21OZ as well as the UHR. Picked them in the same size and asked for the UHR closest to my 21OZ waist measurement. Both fit pretty similar in the top block,
                    but I have to second @neph93 that the UHR have a considerably wider leg.

                    I’ve yet to hot wash them so maybe they will come closer to the 21OZ considering it’s an area that is not under tension and therefore „doesn’t stretch back“.

                    Hope this helps.

                    Use it or lose it.

                    last edited by 12 Nov 2022, 14:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      Joined:

                      I would say 30 as well, the UHR is one of the toughest fabrics out there in my opinion, xhs was easier to break in haha! So you would love that it will stretch back to post-soak 🙂

                      last edited by 12 Nov 2022, 18:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Zecyon
                        Joined: 12 Jan 2022

                        Thank you everyone for the advice! I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a size 30 as there were only 3 pair left. Having them hemmed to 33" so they will shrink to around 31.25" after the shrink and have requested the smallest waist out of the 30's they have. Will keep the thread updated!

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                          A Former User
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                          Congratulations on your purchase! Keep us up to date  😉

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                            weftyarn
                            Iron Heart Deity
                            Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                            Congrats @Zecyon looking forward to fit pics!

                            Use it or lose it.

                            last edited by 12 Nov 2022, 20:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Zecyon
                              Joined: 12 Jan 2022

                              Have never uploaded pictures on here before so I hope these came through alright! These came in today and their stiffness really is ridiculous. My 21oz and 21oz SBG's have nothing on these guys. Forgot to take pre-soak/wash measurements but after a solid 1.5 hours in the tub with tons of agitation, they shrunk up nicely! Unfortunately my washer is a top loader (piece of shit) and I'm gonna have to wait a few days until I'm back home for American-Thanksgiving to give these a full wash with a nicer machine! Also, I had requested that they come in at 33-33.25" from IH which we ended up settling on 33.25" and for some reason, they got to me at 34". Not sure what I can really do about this other than ship them back after I wash them, or have them hemmed in the states. Looking forward to washing/breaking these in over the next few cold months and watching the fades spring to life! Again, I appreciate everyone's help with sizing recommendations. Also have a few Good Art HLYWD pieces coming in as well so this IH lifestyle is really getting addicting 😃

                              last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 03:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • NikN
                                Nik
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                                Looks like a perfect fit and 3/4" extra length might be good for when this heavier denim creases causing them to shorten.

                                last edited by 19 Nov 2022, 06:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  Joined:

                                  Nice fit! And that denim stand-alone never fails to impress! Enjoy the journey mate, lenght wise first take all the shrink out and indeed the will be some honeycombs that will take some length cause it’s one of the stiffest fabrics around and will not get as soft as the XHS. Keep rockin them mate!

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                                    weftyarn
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                                    Impeccable fit, @Zecyon

                                    Enjoy wearing this beauty!

                                    Use it or lose it.

                                    last edited by 20 Nov 2022, 14:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      JohnM
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 7 May 2014

                                      With a natural 35.5" waist, I'm torn between size 35 and 36 in the 888S UHR.  Suggestions appreciated.

                                      My preference is for a comfortable and relaxed (but not loose or sloppy) fit in the waist.  I typically do a warm cycle wash, then hang dry.

                                      Thanks,
                                      John

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                                        weftyarn
                                        Iron Heart Deity
                                        Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                                        @JohnM I see you also posted on the 21OZ thread. I have both the UHR and the 21OZ, both in the same size (34) and I have to say

                                        1. 21OZ is a bit slimmer from thigh down to the hem.
                                          So if you’re looking for a comfortable fit without upsizing the waist, the UHR may be the way to go.

                                        2. 21OZ stretched out quicker (and more, from what I can say after 30 days in the UHR)
                                          So if you’re only caring about the comfort of the waist, I think the 21OZ might give you more room for errors / weight changes, if you know what I mean.

                                        3. The 21OZ in general is among the most comfortable fabrics I ever experienced. From day 1 almost. After a few wears they are sweat pants like. Only denim that compares to that comfort and weight is Oni‘s Secret denim if you ask me

                                        Just some personal (and maybe subjective) thoughts, but maybe they help you in your decision process 🙂

                                        Use it or lose it.

                                        last edited by 26 Nov 2022, 09:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                          JohnM
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 7 May 2014

                                          Thanks weftyarn.  I do remember an old pair of 634S with the 21 oz. denim – very soft and pliable, as you suggest.  And I also remember UHR from an IH-1955 that I still have and enjoy -- like body armor, with less give to the denim, so there's less room for error in sizing.

                                          Given that you have a size 34 in both the 21 oz. and UHR, what is your natural waistline?  Mine is 35.5".

                                          Makes sense that the 21 oz. 888 would have more give in the waist, but interesting that it's cut a little trimmer down below.  Do you think this is sample variation or inherent to the cut?

                                          last edited by 26 Nov 2022, 11:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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