• Home
    • Recent
    • Calendar
    • Register
    • Login
    Iron Heart Forum
    Iron Heart Forum

    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion

    General Chat
    101
    1.4k
    292.6k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • zhivagoZ
      zhivago
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined:

      just so I have some frame of reference to what your understanding of modern medicine is, feel free to list any credentials you or someone you live with has, for instance, my wife is a dual board certified physician, your turn

      Zhivago

      MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

      G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • MattM
        Matt
        見習いボス
        Joined:

        @zhivago:

        no bait @Matt not how I roll champ

        Are these injections not only being used under the EUA or am I missing something?

        Pfizer, which is essentially the same technology as Moderna, has been fully approved for months.  It’s easy to find online if you have any interest.  Was the Mrs not aware of this?

        last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • FadezF
          Fadez
          啓蒙家
          Joined:

          We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

          last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
            Filthy2123ozjunkie
            見習いボスー
            Joined:

            @Fadez:

            We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

            yeah QFT

            last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • zhivagoZ
              zhivago
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined:

              @Fadez:

              We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

              In the covid thread?

              @Matt:

              @zhivago:

              no bait @Matt not how I roll champ

              Are these injections not only being used under the EUA or am I missing something?

              Pfizer, which is essentially the same technology as Moderna, has been fully approved for months.  It’s easy to find online if you have any interest.  Was the Mrs not aware of this?

              Good to know, I would say overall we are still in the midst of the experiment and from what I have seen, it ain't working. Did you get the measles after you got your measles vaccine?

              Yet with this one, you get it, you can spread it, but MAYBE it makes the symptoms less? How would you even know? Plenty of people are still being hospitalized with the vaccine?

              I really am not here to debate it. I didn't take it, I got it, I got better. It's funny how if someone who takes the vax, gets it and recovers, they are praised in here like it was some heroic effort, but if someone doesn’t take it and gets better they are treated like a threat to society. All very odd behavior IMO.

              Zhivago

              MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

              G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

              last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • vaquero357V
                vaquero357
                Banned
                Joined:

                …@zhivago, Amen.

                last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • SeulS
                  Seul
                  Joined:

                  Chap works in an ER (or hospital) if I remember correctly… Guess he's sick and tired of folk like you making his job so much harder rn  😉

                  last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • LewisStonehouseL
                    LewisStonehouse
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined:

                    @Filthy:

                    @Fadez:

                    We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

                    yeah QFT

                    Dimness can be hard to swallow regardless of what trousers it wears

                    last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • MattM
                      Matt
                      見習いボス
                      Joined:

                      I hear what you’re saying and I have nothing against Fadez or Filthy or you for that matter.  My only point here is that it seems like a bit  of a double standard to claim you don’t support vaccines because you incorrectly believed them to be experimental and unapproved by the FDA, but you do support another that is actually experimental (and found to be ineffective in those experiments) and actually unapproved in any capacity for humans.

                      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • zhivagoZ
                        zhivago
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined:

                        @Seul:

                        Chap works in an ER (or hospital) if I remember correctly… Guess he's sick and tired of folk like you making his job so much harder rn  😉

                        how am I making his job harder exactly?

                        Zhivago

                        MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                        G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                        last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • LewisStonehouseL
                          LewisStonehouse
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined:

                          PS it is working, at least in the UK where the vast majority have the sense to get the vaccine. All restrictions being dropped this week…

                          last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • S
                            sabergirl
                            見習いボス
                            Joined:

                            And this is why the pandemic will never end and the virus will continue to mutate.

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                            last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • zhivagoZ
                              zhivago
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined:

                              @Matt:

                              I hear what you’re saying and I have nothing against Fadez or Filthy or you for that matter.  My only point here is that it seems like a bit  of a double standard to claim you don’t support vaccines because you incorrectly believed them to be experimental and unapproved by the FDA, but you do support another that is actually experimental (and found to be ineffective in those experiments) and actually unapproved in any capacity for humans.

                              When did I say they weren’t approved by the FDA? I said they are experimental. They are, they have been around for just over a year mate. Squarely in experimental phase of any vaccine historically. That would be 7 years in most cases. They were approved under the EAU, it's all very easy to find on the internet. I would also be curious as to what took 108 days to approve needs 75 years to release the documents relating to the approval of said drug?

                              Again, really not trying to change anyone's mind here. Nor am I changing mine, but let's just notice how the pro vax immediate devolve to insults…@LewisStonehouse:

                              @Filthy:

                              @Fadez:

                              We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

                              yeah QFT

                              Dimness can be hard to swallow regardless of what trousers it wears

                              Zhivago

                              MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                              G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                              last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • zhivagoZ
                                zhivago
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined:

                                @sabergirl:

                                And this is why the pandemic will never end and the virus will continue to mutate.

                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                As it did in South Africa which then gave us the Omicron variant which by all accounts seems to be our best shot at herd immunity yet!

                                Zhivago

                                MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                                last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • zhivagoZ
                                  zhivago
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined:

                                  Again, gonna be really fun to look back at this thread in 6 months and again in a year or two…

                                  Zhivago

                                  MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                  G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                                  last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • AlexA
                                    Alex
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined:

                                    Have decided to lock this down for now. Everyone has their own opinion on this topic, but it’s not really the platform to dig into them to the point that we all have been.

                                    last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • neph93N
                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined:

                                      I think that reading through this thread should make it clear that the majority view in society at large, is the majority view of posters here. While everyone has a right to their opinion, posting things that are obviously going to initiate polarisation is the dictionary definition of trolling. Everybody, on both sides of the debate (myself included), needs to remember that if we are to re-open this thread.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • First post
                                        Last post
                                      Copyright Iron Heart 2025.