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    Matt
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    Joined: 4 Oct 2011

    Oh @chap, you took the bait!

    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 16:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      zhivago
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 17 Aug 2010

      no bait @Matt not how I roll champ

      Are these injections not only being used under the EUA or am I missing something?

      Zhivago

      MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

      G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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        zhivago
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 17 Aug 2010

        just so I have some frame of reference to what your understanding of modern medicine is, feel free to list any credentials you or someone you live with has, for instance, my wife is a dual board certified physician, your turn

        Zhivago

        MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

        G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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          Matt
          見習いボス
          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

          @zhivago:

          no bait @Matt not how I roll champ

          Are these injections not only being used under the EUA or am I missing something?

          Pfizer, which is essentially the same technology as Moderna, has been fully approved for months.  It’s easy to find online if you have any interest.  Was the Mrs not aware of this?

          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 16:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Fadez
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 9 Nov 2011

            We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

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              Filthy2123ozjunkie
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              Joined: 21 Jan 2013

              @Fadez:

              We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

              yeah QFT

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                zhivago
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                @Fadez:

                We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

                In the covid thread?

                @Matt:

                @zhivago:

                no bait @Matt not how I roll champ

                Are these injections not only being used under the EUA or am I missing something?

                Pfizer, which is essentially the same technology as Moderna, has been fully approved for months.  It’s easy to find online if you have any interest.  Was the Mrs not aware of this?

                Good to know, I would say overall we are still in the midst of the experiment and from what I have seen, it ain't working. Did you get the measles after you got your measles vaccine?

                Yet with this one, you get it, you can spread it, but MAYBE it makes the symptoms less? How would you even know? Plenty of people are still being hospitalized with the vaccine?

                I really am not here to debate it. I didn't take it, I got it, I got better. It's funny how if someone who takes the vax, gets it and recovers, they are praised in here like it was some heroic effort, but if someone doesn’t take it and gets better they are treated like a threat to society. All very odd behavior IMO.

                Zhivago

                MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                  vaquero357
                  Banned
                  Joined: 9 Aug 2020

                  …@zhivago, Amen.

                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Seul
                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                    Chap works in an ER (or hospital) if I remember correctly… Guess he's sick and tired of folk like you making his job so much harder rn  😉

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                      LewisStonehouse
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 11 May 2020

                      @Filthy:

                      @Fadez:

                      We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

                      yeah QFT

                      Dimness can be hard to swallow regardless of what trousers it wears

                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Matt
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                        Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                        I hear what you’re saying and I have nothing against Fadez or Filthy or you for that matter.  My only point here is that it seems like a bit  of a double standard to claim you don’t support vaccines because you incorrectly believed them to be experimental and unapproved by the FDA, but you do support another that is actually experimental (and found to be ineffective in those experiments) and actually unapproved in any capacity for humans.

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                          zhivago
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                          @Seul:

                          Chap works in an ER (or hospital) if I remember correctly… Guess he's sick and tired of folk like you making his job so much harder rn  😉

                          how am I making his job harder exactly?

                          Zhivago

                          MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                          G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                          last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            LewisStonehouse
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 11 May 2020

                            PS it is working, at least in the UK where the vast majority have the sense to get the vaccine. All restrictions being dropped this week…

                            last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              sabergirl
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                              Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                              And this is why the pandemic will never end and the virus will continue to mutate.

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                zhivago
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                                @Matt:

                                I hear what you’re saying and I have nothing against Fadez or Filthy or you for that matter.  My only point here is that it seems like a bit  of a double standard to claim you don’t support vaccines because you incorrectly believed them to be experimental and unapproved by the FDA, but you do support another that is actually experimental (and found to be ineffective in those experiments) and actually unapproved in any capacity for humans.

                                When did I say they weren’t approved by the FDA? I said they are experimental. They are, they have been around for just over a year mate. Squarely in experimental phase of any vaccine historically. That would be 7 years in most cases. They were approved under the EAU, it's all very easy to find on the internet. I would also be curious as to what took 108 days to approve needs 75 years to release the documents relating to the approval of said drug?

                                Again, really not trying to change anyone's mind here. Nor am I changing mine, but let's just notice how the pro vax immediate devolve to insults…@LewisStonehouse:

                                @Filthy:

                                @Fadez:

                                We’re here for clothes. Not science debates. Let’s take this somewhere else

                                yeah QFT

                                Dimness can be hard to swallow regardless of what trousers it wears

                                Zhivago

                                MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                                last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  zhivago
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                                  @sabergirl:

                                  And this is why the pandemic will never end and the virus will continue to mutate.

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                  As it did in South Africa which then gave us the Omicron variant which by all accounts seems to be our best shot at herd immunity yet!

                                  Zhivago

                                  MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                  G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                                  last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    zhivago
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                                    Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                                    Again, gonna be really fun to look back at this thread in 6 months and again in a year or two…

                                    Zhivago

                                    MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                    G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

                                    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Alex
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                      Have decided to lock this down for now. Everyone has their own opinion on this topic, but it’s not really the platform to dig into them to the point that we all have been.

                                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 17:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        neph93
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                                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                        I think that reading through this thread should make it clear that the majority view in society at large, is the majority view of posters here. While everyone has a right to their opinion, posting things that are obviously going to initiate polarisation is the dictionary definition of trolling. Everybody, on both sides of the debate (myself included), needs to remember that if we are to re-open this thread.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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