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    • GilesG
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      Yeah, I read that post on my 5G phone and I was not even on the forum  😃 😃 😃 😃

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • MattM
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        The article actually did mention the greater cost of achieving natural immunity due to the virus’ affects in the body.

        It did not mention the vaccine’s 5G benefits which I suspect will be a big hit this Xmas.

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        • SKTS
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          I agree, especially about not taking chances or taking on unnecessary risk. I have a good friend who had Covid last November(pre vaccine). He was 50 and healthy and it was mild but he still can’t taste or smell almost a year later. Can’t taste a good beer or a dram of whisky.  No thanks.  And I know that he’s actually lucky in the scheme of things. I’m grateful for science and what this mRNA technology can do and I just wish it was available to more people worldwide.

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          • SKTS
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            And the 5G is just a bonus!

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            • MattM
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              Even Fox News wants you to get vaccinated.  So you know it’s bad…

              Neil Cavuto got death threats after promoting COVID-19 vaccines  - https://www.npr.org/2021/10/27/1049664531/fox-anchor-neil-cavuto-covid-19-vaccine-death-threats

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              • S
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                I heard a story recently on NPR that has some study backing the idea that those of us who are fully vaccinated may not be as prone to spreading it when we get breakthrough cases, either: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/12/1044553048/covid-data-vaccines-breakthrough-infections-transmission

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                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                  Seems like maybe I opened up a can of worms with this. I was hoping for someone to say they had side effects, got the booster and everything was peachy.  I will probably end up getting the booster. But I am not thrilled about it.

                  As hyper-politicized as this topic is, it's hard to distill any real meaning or truth from all of these talking points. For every pro study, there's a competing study to the contrary. I think it is just too soon to tell. This vaccine is so new that they have just scratched the surface of what the long term effects are or what it's efficacy is. Interestingly enough this same kind of vaccine was being researched as a UNIVERSAL vaccine. SARS, other coronavirus, the flu, colds, etc. don't have vaccines that completely make people immune, or completely stop transmission. Maybe one day they will have one?

                  I would not compare this vaccine to one for polio or smallpox or anything like that. It is completely different and a ton of long term research went into development of those. I am hopeful maybe somehow they will find a way to make this go away.

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                  • MattM
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                    I don’t disagree with those points.  Unfortunately I don’t think we have time for long term research. Also, consider the fact that research moves a lot faster now thanks to the 100 years worth of technological and scientific advancements that have been made since those vaccines were developed.  There are also billions of $$ and thousands of people dedicated to developing them, as opposed to what I’m sure were limited manpower and financial resources back then.

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      @Filthy:

                      I am hopeful maybe somehow they will find a way to make this go away.

                      They have: vaccines to accelerate the march to herd immunity in concert with the infections and antibodies that occur naturally along the way, and masks and social distancing to blunt the spread and mutation of the virus until we get there.

                      I don't believe there is anything close to as many "con" as "pro" studies, and the "con" studies, while they get much more media attention because of perverse economics and confirmation bias, when they are not simply misunderstood like the above Israeli study, seem to quickly get falsified in peer review.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • JoberwockyJ
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                        @Filthy:

                        I haven't ever gotten a flu shot and I don't even have a PCP.

                        I dont find that so unusual.  Makes my nurse wife exasperated, but I typically don't get the flu shot (more out of just acknowledged laziness) and only actually selected a PCP in this last year, so no judgement from me  😃

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                        • AnesthetistA
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                          @Matt:

                          As far as I know breakthrough infections are relatively mild and rare.  The people dying in hospitals are NOT vaccinated.  You may get sick but you won’t clog up the hospitals taking beds from those who really need them.  Also, being vaccinated, though not full proof, decreases the potential of getting sick and getting others sick.  It also minimizes the risk of mutations that could be even worse than what we’re dealing with now.  Not being vaccinated all but guarantees you will get more severely ill and pass it along to others.  It will also prolong the pandemic.

                          Get your vaccine and get your booster.  Vaccines are why we all aren’t dead from polio.

                          That’s my $.02.

                          This has been the case at our hospital and pretty much the same system wide. For a while, we were double occupied in the ICU & putting in so many trachs and PEGs that we ran out.

                          It has been an exhausting experience and my patience and compassion are running thin.

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                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                            I got my booster

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                            • JoberwockyJ
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                              @Filthy how ya feeling?

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                              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                My arm kind of has a dull ache. That's about it

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                                • JoberwockyJ
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                                  Glad to hear it, Mike.

                                  I'm gonna have to start looking into where locally I can get mine

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                                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                    Just walk into Rite Aid like I did, Jason

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                                    • JoberwockyJ
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                                      I've got a pharmacy right around the corner I might see about hitting it up during lunch at work on Monday

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                                        All right, Mike! I’m glad to hear that you’re feeling okay so far. [emoji3590]

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                                        • PalmerP
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                                          I got boosted last Wednesday. It was fast and easy and I had a similar reaction to my second dose. I felt generally unwell for about 12 hours and that was it. I’ll be at full power by the time I’m supposed to see The Black Angels play in a couple weeks!

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                                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                            My arm feels like I got a tetanus shot. Basically like it's going to fall off.

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