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    • 501IH5
      501IH
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      The stubborn crew has my full sympathy. If a future IH EU distribution centre might be in Berlin (a cool place for things denim…) I'll apply for the job.
      As we're supposed to always look at the bright side: since the mere sight of Boris Johnson makes me want to throw up, I trust the  (British) denim community will be on the right side when it comes to the next election...

      Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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      • goosehdG
        goosehd
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        The HMRC post is the closest I’ve ever seen to “Don’t ask us, we don’t know” from any government agency.  Most of the time it’s multiple pages of doublespeak and please refer to’s.

        @Madame Buttonfly I truly feel for you.  I would suggest Gin, but I know you and G are taking the month off.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • Madame ButtonflyM
          Madame Buttonfly
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          @goosehd - thank you for your kind words.  We'll get through this, even without beer and wine and gin for a few weeks!  To be honest, some of what we're trying to get to grips with is so complex, it's probably best that we are examining our options with clear heads…
          😃

          AKA Mrs G

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          • AetasA
            Aetas
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            @Madame:

            @goosehd - … To be honest, some of what we're trying to get to grips with is so complex, it's probably best that we are examining our options with clear heads...
            😃

            @Madame Buttonfly and to the whole IHUK crew…. you will sort it out!

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            • Madame ButtonflyM
              Madame Buttonfly
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              Thanks very much @Aetas - we've made a lot of headway over the past few days, we are feeling positive, and looking forward to posting some better news here soon  🙂

              AKA Mrs G

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              • JDelageJ
                JDelage
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                I don't have much to contribute to this other than to wish the entire IH UK team the best. I'm certain this will get resolved over time, because it's in the interest of everyone involved. It's going to be painful in the meantime though and I'm sorry you're having to deal with this crap.

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  Go here for the good news…...

                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15418.0

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • GilesG
                    Giles
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                    A couple of great quotes from an article I read earlier….

                    “To turn our backs on the world’s largest trading bloc, which is on our doorstep, in favour of trying to create trade deals with countries that couldn’t be further away, and have much smaller economies, is total stupidity and beyond comprehension,”

                    ‘Never in the field of British business has so much been destroyed for so many, by so few.’ -  🙂 🙂 🙂

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • vaquero357V
                      vaquero357
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                      …here you go Giles. 🙂

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                      • GilesG
                        Giles
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                        Thank you…..I have vowed not to spend another cent on tackle until I know for definite I can go, then I am going to go beserk....

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • vaquero357V
                          vaquero357
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                          …this is off my dock in ELY, MN. Home of the International Wolf Center and Boundary Waters Canoe Area.

                          ...a recorded 50 below zero Fahrenheit last night. :o

                          ...I think you have a market for UHF underwear! 😉

                          … and I, unlike you my friend, will have a cooler of Barley Pop at my side, and a Kentucky Cheroot or two! Cast and reel for hours. 🙂

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            Very nice…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • scarfmaceS
                              scarfmace
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                              I just got an email from the Belgian Post office:

                              https://www.bpost.be/en/shopping-outside-eu?_ga=2.165379455.1393456375.1621929248-536080081.1621929248&_gl=1*186qgzx*_ga*NTM2MDgwMDgxLjE2MjE5MjkyNDg.*_ga_RL6E59HGV4*MTYyMTkyOTI0Ny4xLjAuMTYyMTkyOTI0Ny4w

                              This is total bullshit. I realy wonder how this will go with p2p shipments…

                              "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
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                                We are in the process of registering for the European One-Stop Shop (IOSS) system.  But more importantly, we now have a Netherlands VAT number, so we will be shipping in bulk into The Netherlands, clearing customs there, and then on-shipping from The Netherlands.  This will likely add a day or two onto the shipping times, but it will effectively be an intra EU shipment.

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • L
                                  Lowlander
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                                  Great news @Giles. Does this also make the  issue of returns less costly for you? If I understood correctly, you're now paying custom duties twice on returned items, right?

                                  Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A217F met Tapatalk

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    No, we are not paying taxes or duties on the return (well, sometimes we do, because I think the people who work in UPS brokerage share a brain cell, but we can reclaim those, as they are mischarges).

                                    The issue is, that we cant reclaim the taxes and duties that we paid on our customer's behalf, so when we get a return, we basically piss that away.

                                    We "sold" two pairs of Wesco boots to a guy in Germany recently.  He returned both pairs.  That cost us Euro600 on taxes, duties, fees, and shipping charges for zero revenue.

                                    I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • L
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                                      What a mess. I'm really sorry to hear it.

                                      @Giles:

                                      I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

                                      ^And at least that might give a strange rock n roll rush of decadence, which you're not getting this way either. Ugh… what a mess.

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
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                                        Hahahaha

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
                                          mclaincausey
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                                          An object lesson in why direct democracy doesn't work: most people are idiots and operate on easily-manipulated feelings instead of wisdom and foresight.

                                          Sympathies and hopes for an optimal, speedy resolution to all impacted.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • GilesG
                                            Giles
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                                            Brexit was emotive and highly complex.  Almost 6 months in, and we, as a company, are still not getting proper advice on how to deal with it.  We elect our leaders to represent us and to make difficult decisions on our behalf.  I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I am not the dullest either, and the complexities were way beyond me. I have older friends who voted to leave "so we could get our old blue passports back and make the empire great again".  I avoid talking to them about it because my forehead would get firmly and violently embedded in the bridge of their noses.

                                            But there is some joy to be had.  I have a friend who lives as an expat in Spain, he has some British Expat friends who voted to leave (go figure), now they are restricted to being in the EU for no more than 90 days, so they cant use their holiday homes or their boats for a substantial part of the year. Wankers.

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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