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    • MattM
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      Flagstaff is beautiful.  The state parks outside of Sedona are great too.  Check out Red Rock SP and Slide Rock SP.  Jerome is a super cool town on the side of a mountain, loved that.  Cottonwood is at the bottom of that mnt and is also cool.  There’s a great Vegan Indian (?) place there.  The owner got in trouble when they used to be in DC for dressing up like an Indian so I guess they’re hiding in AZ now.  There’s a cool museum too, the Douglas Mansion at Jerome State Historic Park.

      I think I have some photos on my travel thread of all that stuff.  Should be sometime in the spring of 21.

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      • jordanscollectedJ
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        @mclaincausey Allie and I stayed in Sedona last winter and did a bunch of hiking around the area and most of it looks like you'd expect. This is nothing you can't find on your Alltrails app, but the Boynton canyon hike was pretty fun with a dramatic canyon view from the bottom at the end. There also wasn't too many other people around on the day we went.

        Not sure what type of scenery impresses a Colorado resident.

        In Sedona, i thought the food was one step below mediocre. We actually ate at the whole foods deli one night cause we were sick of paying for mediocre.

        However, Pisa Lisa made a great pizza and their take on a caesar salad was amazing. There was also a vegan spot that made chocolates too called the ChocolaTree organic eatery. There wasn't a shaved armpit to be seen

        world tours:
        888 Fat guy chocolate WT
        Mad Red x2
        Wabidashery

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        • MattM
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          Yeah, the actual town of Sedona was kind of meh.  Unless you want overpriced crystals or you want your aura cleansed I’d stick to the outskirts for hiking and better food.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Thank you fellas @Jett129 @jordanscollected @Matt

            Disappointing to hear about the food, but there's probably a reason you hear about their neighboring state's cuisines and not theirs. If I could find northern New Mexican cuisine I'd eat it anywhere. Pizza sounds great! Did y'all eat at Miraposa @jordanscollected ? I'd love to know if it's "meh" so we can cancel our reservation and do pizza instead–same chef behind that as Miraposa, looks like. Wife LOVES a Caesar as long as it isn't one of those generic ""southwestern" styles.

            I may wind up doing a bunch of mountain biking tours during the day and stargazing at night. We'll be in Boynton Canyon which seems like it should be able to keep me busy enjoying the desert unless there are can't-miss things in town. Sounds like if I use the wheels I should go to Flagstaff.

            Think it, be it.

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            • J
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              My theory about Sedona has always been ,that since there’s no school/college there you don’t have thousands of students who need to be fed and entertained. Which is why everything closes up pretty early,and there really aren’t cool inexpensive ethnic restaurants.

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              • jordanscollectedJ
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                Miraposa was on our list but got skipped. I couldn’t justify the prices. It’s Sedona not San Francisco @mclaincausey

                world tours:
                888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                Mad Red x2
                Wabidashery

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                • Clint_DC
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                  @Jett129:

                  If you can do it with the wife,highly recommend the Pink Jeep Tour.

                  I'll second the Pink Jeep tour, it's super touristy but we enjoyed it!

                  ATX IH Hoarder

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                  • MattM
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                    Once you I go there you have to chime in every time you hear someone talking about Sedona by saying “Love Sedona!”

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                    • PalmerP
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                      Sedona is a tourist trap. My dad used to always say that Sedona is what happens when a beautiful area isn't made into a national park. That being said, Oak Creek and Sycamore Canyon are beautiful. There's decent food and drink in Flagstaff (Martanne's, Pizzicleta, Diablo Burger, Cornish Pasty, Mother Road Brewing.) Route 66 offers some interesting retro motels and random roadside attractions like the Wigwam motel. I do love Jerome even though it can be experienced in a couple hours of walking. I grew up in Prescott, Arizona on the other side of the mountain as Jerome. Northern AZ is kind of a wasteland outside of hiking and other outdoor recreation. Feel free to DM me or run any ideas by me.

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                      • IronFartI
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                        Hi all,
                        First time Iron-Hearter here. I recently bought two pairs of IH on ebay, both 14oz, both used but close to new. The 555s I got I'm going to wear and allow to fade in their own sweet (very sweet) time. But I also bought some overdyed 666, which I'd like to 'force-fade'. A user on reddit has achieved amazing fades washing monthly on a hot cycle with a cup of bleach in the washing machine each time. Does anyone have any advice as to whether this might work with my overdyed?
                        Thanks everyone!
                        Julian

                        Seize that fish.

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                        • BoyoB
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                          Dude… No Bleach… wear often & wash when dirty. That’s it

                          Lively Up Yourself

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                          • goosehdG
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                            @IronFart I’m tagging a member who has bleached a pair of his jeans and hopefully can answer your question @Nkwkfld.  This is a picture of his jeans.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • IronFartI
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                              Thank you! I'm not going for a full bleach in this case. I'm thinking instead just a splash of bleach to highlight the fades. Just not sure if that will work with overdyed jeans…

                              Seize that fish.

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                              • goosehdG
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                                In that case, fully agree with @Boyo, otherwise you’re just asking for potential fade issues and in my opinion, the results aren’t worth it.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Thanks @Clint_D !

                                  The fine dining place at Enchantment looks more interesting to me than anything in town for a romantic meal but I think the wife wants to go into town. So we will see about dinner I guess.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    Thank you @Palmer I have had this growing sense of Sedona being as you describe. Luckily, I love mountain biking and they rent pretty nice bikes (Pivot) and gear at the resort, so I'm likely to just do a lot of outdoor stuff.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • MattM
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                                      Please don’t mess with the OD.  It’s so beautiful as is.  Just try to enjoy it.

                                      See what happened to the Queen when she saw @Nkwkfld ’s pair…

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                                      • NikN
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                                        I say go for it @IronFart I like my overbleached overdyed 21oz. Only wear (and not washing) will create whiskers and honeycombs (unless you washed yourself in the jeans in the machine) but bleaching will lighten what's there already and using less bleach and heat can make the process gradual. Beware that there are risks of marbling and damaging the fabric and know that 14oz OD is probably less likely than some other fabrics to create high contrast fades over time. Heavier fabrics with indigo or indigo/black dye that will come off more quickly create better contrast fades. The joy of 14oz OD is a low contrast gradual black - grey - blue fade. @Matt is right that OD is enjoyable as is. He's likely wrong about lots of other things. @goosehd on the other hand is right about many things and wrong less often.

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                                        • T4920T
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                                          @IronFart:

                                          Hi all,
                                          First time Iron-Hearter here. I recently bought two pairs of IH on ebay, both 14oz, both used but close to new. The 555s I got I'm going to wear and allow to fade in their own sweet (very sweet) time. But I also bought some overdyed 666, which I'd like to 'force-fade'. A user on reddit has achieved amazing fades washing monthly on a hot cycle with a cup of bleach in the washing machine each time. Does anyone have any advice as to whether this might work with my overdyed?
                                          Thanks everyone!
                                          Julian

                                          I think I know the redditor you're referring to and in fairness, her jeans have turned out beautiful using this method.

                                          “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            Ultimately jeans are a reflection of the wearer and the fades are the stories and memories created while wearing them.  Each person and their creations are unique and you should do what you’re comfortable with.

                                            I like to put the work, time, and effort in my denim to fade them naturally and relish the memories of those special occasions.  Children born, friends lost, beers shared, and tears shed.  I don’t want to speed up that process because life goes by too quickly.

                                            My jeans are my story and your jeans should be yours.

                                            Just my $.02.

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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