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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      I loved that part too…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        My pleasure. Not an expert just my opinions.

        Real is 100% legit and respected. I hope they treat their producers well.

        I don’t know the background on raicilla but they use methods that diverge from tequila, different species than blue Weber agave, sometimes they use hornos instead of autoclaves, etc. the only thing that often aligns to the requirements of the tequila DOM is that it is in Jalisco. I have always thought of it as people using methods that simply don’t conform to the DOM requirements because that’s what they’ve done and what they like to do. It produces a more interesting and varied spirit, but I also love tequila. I love raicilla and want to tour a plantation I found next time I visit Jalisco, but some producers aren’t plantations given their scale and primitivity. La Venenosa has some tremendous ones, especially the green, red, and orange labels.

        Women are coming up in the mezcal scene. I’ve had some great ones produced by women and I too was taken with her. I think she’s right about everything. And there are a lot of really bad mezcals because doing it is maybe not easy in terms of sweat, but in terms of skill. But doing it well requires skill and experience and I think they have to be able to adapt.

        Think it, be it.

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        • J
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          I had read that raicilla translates to little root,which is what they told the tax collectors the spirit was made from,so as to avoid paying the tequila tax,since they argued that it wasn’t technically tequila. I have a bottle of it,and not sure if I like it yet.

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          • ARNCA
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            Something a bit different that I’ve been curious to try for a little while. It’s good, although I’m getting a bit more cinnamon on the palate than I’d expected.

            “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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            • J
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              I’d be curious as to what the Mezcal cask,originally,was,like maybe a bourbon barrel.

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              • ARNCA
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                @Jett129 I’m not sure. All I could find about the casks is this: “After at least three years in new, toasted virgin American oak casks, it has been rounded off with at least 6-months ageing in old mezcal casks from Mexican Oro de Oaxaca.”

                A bit more general info here: https://stauningwhisky.com/products/stauning-bastard-70cl

                “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                • J
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                  Thanks,I was just curious because Mezcal isn’t traditionally a barrel aged spirit,and when it is,most often,those barrels contained bourbon.

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                  • hajdukH
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                    When precious friends comes to visit us comes very nice food and lot of such good wines from France! South Africa! Croatia! Sicilia! Austria!
                    Good vibes🥹[emoji3059] Good loves[emoji18]

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                    "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                    • S
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                      We’re down in Mexico visiting family, and had some flights at Corazón del Maguey in Coyoacán. It’s the restaurant owned by the makers of Alipús and Los Danzantes.
                      I think I’ll bring home a bottle of the San Miguel Sola, and my all-time favorite, San Baltazar. I may not get to do much more tasting, as we’ve got a lot of family events going on, and I only get to stay for five days.

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                      • J
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                        I’m pretty sure you’re the one who originally introduced me to Alipus Mezcal,and the San Baltazar has become my favorite and the mezcal that I measure all others against. Can’t imagine how cheap it must be down there. It’s $59.96 in NYC.

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                          Im glad you can get your hands on it! Alipús rarely appears in our liquor stores, and I’ve never been able to get San Baltazar. It is pretty expensive stuff.

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                          • ROmanR
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                            Have a great time there Ann and Marcia.

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              Super envious!

                              It was always true
                              That Alipus makes good juice
                              Dixeebe and have fun

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • ddtrashD
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                                Had a rather nice birthday gift last month from Mrs Trash. Debating on whether to open it or not or add it to the collection?

                                There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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                                  I don’t know how you lasted a month!

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                                  • ddtrashD
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                                    @Jett129 You have a very good point 😎.

                                    I have some bottles for drinking and some investment bottles. Trying to work out which category this one will end up in.  Also been away at work so no chance to get tempted to crack it open.

                                    Was anyone quick enough to get the latest Ardbeg Hypernova release? I missed out this time unfortunately.

                                    There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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                                      If I can’t get 2 bottles of investment potential bourbon then the one that I am able to get is immediately opened.

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                                      • ddtrashD
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                                        That is pretty much exactly how my collection started.  Buy two, drink one, speculate on the second bottle to partially fund something else.

                                        The return on investment on the bottles I have stored is way more than any interest rate offered.  Plan is to liquidate them (sell them not drink them them  :D) and use the money for my daughters university fees when that time comes.

                                        Star of the show is an inaugural release from the small Daftmill distillery.

                                        There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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                                          Made a MEZCALITA using Tequila Ocho Reposado aged in Widow Jane bourbon barrels on the rocks,with a squeeze of lime and orange,Real Minero Mezcal,splashed on top,with a few shakes of Sal De Gusano. Off the charts delicious. When you get to the end the Sal de Gusano hits you. @mclaincausey   

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            A lovely raicilla this evening. A couple of different maguey used here, roasted in a wood fired oven, so not as smoky as a horno, and double distilled in a Portuguese shade out of copper and a tree trunk. This raicillero makes this one, with the varietals listed on the label, and another one with a single varietal under the same label. I prefer this one.

                                            None of the Venenosas are bad. This one, the red label, and the wacky orange label are favorites, and the Puntas variety is pretty crazy too. The Etnica line is the most special, from a tribal people who recently rediscovered their distilling tradition. If you see that, it is especially rare, even more than the orange label, which is guaranteed to be among the most unique spirits you’ve tried.

                                            The variety of terroir and maguey in Jalisco make raicilla one of the most varied and interesting maguey traditions IMO.

                                            Think it, be it.

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