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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    @tvenuto:

    I didn't see anything in the Meet-ups & Travel section on the IH visit to Charlottesville, VA that Division Road just announced.  Did I miss it somewhere?  Anyway, I've RSVP'd yes…

    A thread will be created….

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Oaktavia
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Jun 2019

      @tvenuto:

      I didn't see anything in the Meet-ups & Travel section on the IH visit to Charlottesville, VA that Division Road just announced.  Did I miss it somewhere?  Anyway, I've RSVP'd yes…

      Oh nice! That is not too far from where I live.

      Edit: I RSVP'd to the day 2 Saturday. Not sure about the dinner…

      IG: electricindigowizard

      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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        EdH
        Iron Heart Deity
        Joined: 2 Jan 2022

        @Giles:

        As much notice as poss is appreciated, but we’ve never turned anyone away 🙂

        Hemming takes about 10 minutes….

        Awesome, thanks Giles. I’ll drop the Crew a line as soon as we know what day we’ll be doing Gosport. 👍🏼

        Take the dive...

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          Jestocost
          Joined: 21 Jun 2022

          @neph93:

          If you can I highly recommend a pair of IH slubs for warm, humid conditions.

          That’s a surprising take. Is there something about the slub that makes them better for the heat? And would you take them over, say, the 14oz non-slub?

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            neph93
            見習いボス
            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            @Jestocost:

            @neph93:

            If you can I highly recommend a pair of IH slubs for warm, humid conditions.

            That’s a surprising take. Is there something about the slub that makes them better for the heat? And would you take them over, say, the 14oz non-slub?

            Only surprising if one assumes weight to be the decisive factor when it comes to insulation/heat retention. Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is. In my experience the 16oz is better than both.

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              Chris
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 28 Jun 2010

              @neph93:

              Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is.

              Weave tightness is way more important. Hottest pair of jeans I ever owned was a pair 13.5oz denim. And while I don't have a pair currently, I wore the 21oz 634S denim for years through Houston summers,  which many would consider warm and humid.

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                popvulture
                見習いボス
                Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                I too have been surprised by how much hotter a pair of lighter weight jeans can be. My 18oz IH are definitely hotter than my 21oz, which in turn are hotter than my XHS. This is all just my own experience of course, YMMV. And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat like a true masochist 😉

                WTB
                IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @popvulture:

                  And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat  😉

                  You cannot make that point without acknowledging that you are James Hetfields benevolent hipster twin and a prince amongst men. Full disclosure is important.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    goosehd
                    Mod Squad
                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                    😃 good one!

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      Jestocost
                      Joined: 21 Jun 2022

                      @neph93:

                      Only surprising if one assumes weight to be the decisive factor when it comes to insulation/heat retention. Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is. In my experience the 16oz is better than both.

                      In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness. But good to know! I've never owned slubby denim before, but it's definitely on my radar now.

                      @popvulture:

                      I too have been surprised by how much hotter a pair of lighter weight jeans can be. My 18oz IH are definitely hotter than my 21oz, which in turn are hotter than my XHS. This is all just my own experience of course, YMMV. And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat like a true masochist 😉

                      I'm glad I'm not the only one wearing XHS in this kind of heat. It is a pain and glory like no other. How long did it take you to break yours in, BTW? I'm sitting at about 20 wears now (no washes/soaks yet), and it's starting to soften but I feel like I've still got a long way to go.

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        @Jestocost:

                        In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness.

                        Good point, but only if the company wanted a very one-dimensional offering.  We offer a load of different types of denim and they all have to be woven in a way that is specific to that type of denim.  For instance, left hand twill typically is very pale blue because there is a lot of weft (the white yarns, or "filler") showing though on the face of the denim (learn more here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/what-is-lht), but we prefer darker indigo denims, so we weave LHT at a very high tension to hide more of the filler, the side-effect of this is that the denim is very dense, so does not breathe very well, thus is very warm to wear.

                        Our upcoming broken-twill denim should come in at 14oz (and that is what we will advertise it as because conventionally the weight of the warp and weft will result in a 14oz denim), but we will weave at a very high weft tension and loose warp tension, this will again give a very warm (to wear) denim, but with a lot of character on the face, and it will actually weigh in at about 16.5oz because of the density of the resultant weave…

                        Learn more about our denims here:

                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/our-denims/?page=1

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          neph93
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          @Jestocost:

                          In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness. But good to know! I've never owned slubby denim before, but it's definitely on my radar now.

                          I apologise if you felt patronised. That was not my intention. I’ve been geeking out on Iron Heart denim and forget what it was like to be a newbie.

                          Every denim IH have made (and I’ve tried most of them), have many varied qualities and characteristics. Weight is only one of them.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
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                            Jestocost
                            Joined: 21 Jun 2022

                            All fair points. My knowledge of denim is probably pretty limited compared to most of the people on here. My whole life, up until taking the IH plunge with the XHS a couple months ago, was mall jeans and two or three pairs of N&Fs (none of the super out-there stuff they've done, just their LHT, a red-core selvedge and one lighter indigo), so my experience thus far really is that jeans from the same company usually feel the same. The amount of skill and effort that goes into making this stuff will never cease to amaze me.

                            As an aside, I don't know if I'll ever get used to the idea that the guy in charge of the entire EU/US IH operation is just… on here, randomly answering questions and posting about chicken sashimi. It's a much less polished vibe than the typical brand's online presence, and I mean that in a good way.

                            @neph93:

                            I apologise if you felt patronised. That was not my intention. I’ve been geeking out on Iron Heart denim and forget what it was like to be a newbie.

                            Every denim IH have made (and I’ve tried most of them), have many varied qualities and characteristics. Weight is only one of them.

                            You're good, chief. I didn't take any offense. Besides, lord knows I've probably come off in ways I didn't mean to when talking to new converts about things I'm passionate about.

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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              @Jestocost:

                              It's a much less polished vibe than the typical brand's online presence, and I mean that in a good way.

                              Brilliant, we have achieved our goal then  😉 😉

                              Oh, and @Alex is the boss now  🙂 🙂

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                vaquero357
                                Banned
                                Joined: 9 Aug 2020

                                …@jestocost I remember being rather stunned about which you speak concerning the 'real and authentic' presence of the ownership here on the forums. 😎

                                ...Giles had me by the short hairs, now Alex is tugging! :o I doubt I'll buy clothing from another company from here on out! 😉

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                                  beautiful_FrEaK
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                                  @Giles:

                                  @Jestocost:

                                  In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness.

                                  Good point, but only if the company wanted a very one-dimensional offering.  We offer a load of different types of denim and they all have to be woven in a way that is specific to that type of denim.

                                  Giles, you also use more than one denim mill (at least I assume this). So this alone would also speak against a "uniform" denim characteristic, right?

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    We use at least 4…....

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      ecerratic
                                      Joined: 9 Sept 2013

                                      Any chance there will be a restock of the 720 BLK whipcord pants? Probably not but it doesn’t hurt to ask

                                      Insta - @whiskyforeveryghost

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                                        tody
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                        @ecerratic:

                                        Any chance there will be a restock of the 720 BLK whipcord pants? Probably not but it doesn’t hurt to ask

                                        I looked at your older posts, are you looking for a size 31?
                                        IH Germany has them in stock. I have a pair, they are incredible.
                                        https://ironheartgermany.com/products/ih-720-blk-whipcord-work-pants-black

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                                          goosehd
                                          Mod Squad
                                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                          Cake or Pie?  (wife's birthday is today, she want's cake, kids want cake, I hate cake….)  What do you guys prefer? ...this could have went in the stupid questions thread also... 🙂

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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