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    endo
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    Joined: 29 May 2020

    amazing - would be awesome in denim, with boots  😃

    si tacuisses

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      A Human…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        ARNC
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 13 Dec 2020

        Thanks @Giles. Not the answer I wanted but maybe the one I deserved  😃

        “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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          EdH
          Iron Heart Deity
          Joined: 2 Jan 2022

          Mrs H and I (and a small dog) will be touring the south coast next week. Gosport/Portsmouth/IoM is on the list of places to visit, but not sure what day yet.

          How much notice do the Crew need if Mrs H allows me to make pilgrimage to Cooperage Green?

          How quickly could my 888-SLBs be hemmed if I brought them along on the day? (The amount of detritus I just found in my turn-ups was rather alarming…)

          Take the dive...

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            tvenuto
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 15 Sept 2016

            I didn't see anything in the Meet-ups & Travel section on the IH visit to Charlottesville, VA that Division Road just announced.  Did I miss it somewhere?  Anyway, I've RSVP'd yes…

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              @EdH:

              Mrs H and I (and a small dog) will be touring the south coast next week. Gosport/Portsmouth/IoM is on the list of places to visit, but not sure what day yet.

              How much notice do the Crew need if Mrs H allows me to make pilgrimage to Cooperage Green?

              How quickly could my 888-SLBs be hemmed if I brought them along on the day? (The amount of detritus I just found in my turn-ups was rather alarming…)

              As much notice as poss is appreciated, but we’ve never turned anyone away 🙂

              Hemming takes about 10 minutes….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                @tvenuto:

                I didn't see anything in the Meet-ups & Travel section on the IH visit to Charlottesville, VA that Division Road just announced.  Did I miss it somewhere?  Anyway, I've RSVP'd yes…

                A thread will be created….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  Oaktavia
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                  Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                  @tvenuto:

                  I didn't see anything in the Meet-ups & Travel section on the IH visit to Charlottesville, VA that Division Road just announced.  Did I miss it somewhere?  Anyway, I've RSVP'd yes…

                  Oh nice! That is not too far from where I live.

                  Edit: I RSVP'd to the day 2 Saturday. Not sure about the dinner…

                  IG: electricindigowizard

                  "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                  WTB: IH-526V-XHS - XL/XXL
                  IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                    EdH
                    Iron Heart Deity
                    Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                    @Giles:

                    As much notice as poss is appreciated, but we’ve never turned anyone away 🙂

                    Hemming takes about 10 minutes….

                    Awesome, thanks Giles. I’ll drop the Crew a line as soon as we know what day we’ll be doing Gosport. 👍🏼

                    Take the dive...

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                      Jestocost
                      Joined: 21 Jun 2022

                      @neph93:

                      If you can I highly recommend a pair of IH slubs for warm, humid conditions.

                      That’s a surprising take. Is there something about the slub that makes them better for the heat? And would you take them over, say, the 14oz non-slub?

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                        neph93
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                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                        @Jestocost:

                        @neph93:

                        If you can I highly recommend a pair of IH slubs for warm, humid conditions.

                        That’s a surprising take. Is there something about the slub that makes them better for the heat? And would you take them over, say, the 14oz non-slub?

                        Only surprising if one assumes weight to be the decisive factor when it comes to insulation/heat retention. Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is. In my experience the 16oz is better than both.

                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                        • Dame Vera Lynn
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                          Chris
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                          @neph93:

                          Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is.

                          Weave tightness is way more important. Hottest pair of jeans I ever owned was a pair 13.5oz denim. And while I don't have a pair currently, I wore the 21oz 634S denim for years through Houston summers,  which many would consider warm and humid.

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                            popvulture
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                            Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                            I too have been surprised by how much hotter a pair of lighter weight jeans can be. My 18oz IH are definitely hotter than my 21oz, which in turn are hotter than my XHS. This is all just my own experience of course, YMMV. And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat like a true masochist 😉

                            WTB
                            IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                            Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                              neph93
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                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @popvulture:

                              And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat  😉

                              You cannot make that point without acknowledging that you are James Hetfields benevolent hipster twin and a prince amongst men. Full disclosure is important.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                              • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                😃 good one!

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  Jestocost
                                  Joined: 21 Jun 2022

                                  @neph93:

                                  Only surprising if one assumes weight to be the decisive factor when it comes to insulation/heat retention. Tightness of weave is at least as important if not more so. Many people experience the 21oz to be more comfortable in warm weather than the 14oz due to how relaxed the weave of the 21oz is. In my experience the 16oz is better than both.

                                  In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness. But good to know! I've never owned slubby denim before, but it's definitely on my radar now.

                                  @popvulture:

                                  I too have been surprised by how much hotter a pair of lighter weight jeans can be. My 18oz IH are definitely hotter than my 21oz, which in turn are hotter than my XHS. This is all just my own experience of course, YMMV. And yes I wear all of this shit in the Texas summer heat like a true masochist 😉

                                  I'm glad I'm not the only one wearing XHS in this kind of heat. It is a pain and glory like no other. How long did it take you to break yours in, BTW? I'm sitting at about 20 wears now (no washes/soaks yet), and it's starting to soften but I feel like I've still got a long way to go.

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    @Jestocost:

                                    In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness.

                                    Good point, but only if the company wanted a very one-dimensional offering.  We offer a load of different types of denim and they all have to be woven in a way that is specific to that type of denim.  For instance, left hand twill typically is very pale blue because there is a lot of weft (the white yarns, or "filler") showing though on the face of the denim (learn more here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/what-is-lht), but we prefer darker indigo denims, so we weave LHT at a very high tension to hide more of the filler, the side-effect of this is that the denim is very dense, so does not breathe very well, thus is very warm to wear.

                                    Our upcoming broken-twill denim should come in at 14oz (and that is what we will advertise it as because conventionally the weight of the warp and weft will result in a 14oz denim), but we will weave at a very high weft tension and loose warp tension, this will again give a very warm (to wear) denim, but with a lot of character on the face, and it will actually weigh in at about 16.5oz because of the density of the resultant weave…

                                    Learn more about our denims here:

                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/our-denims/?page=1

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @Jestocost:

                                      In my defense, I feel like most laymen would assume that denim sold by the same company would be woven with roughly the same tightness. But good to know! I've never owned slubby denim before, but it's definitely on my radar now.

                                      I apologise if you felt patronised. That was not my intention. I’ve been geeking out on Iron Heart denim and forget what it was like to be a newbie.

                                      Every denim IH have made (and I’ve tried most of them), have many varied qualities and characteristics. Weight is only one of them.

                                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                      • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                        Jestocost
                                        Joined: 21 Jun 2022

                                        All fair points. My knowledge of denim is probably pretty limited compared to most of the people on here. My whole life, up until taking the IH plunge with the XHS a couple months ago, was mall jeans and two or three pairs of N&Fs (none of the super out-there stuff they've done, just their LHT, a red-core selvedge and one lighter indigo), so my experience thus far really is that jeans from the same company usually feel the same. The amount of skill and effort that goes into making this stuff will never cease to amaze me.

                                        As an aside, I don't know if I'll ever get used to the idea that the guy in charge of the entire EU/US IH operation is just… on here, randomly answering questions and posting about chicken sashimi. It's a much less polished vibe than the typical brand's online presence, and I mean that in a good way.

                                        @neph93:

                                        I apologise if you felt patronised. That was not my intention. I’ve been geeking out on Iron Heart denim and forget what it was like to be a newbie.

                                        Every denim IH have made (and I’ve tried most of them), have many varied qualities and characteristics. Weight is only one of them.

                                        You're good, chief. I didn't take any offense. Besides, lord knows I've probably come off in ways I didn't mean to when talking to new converts about things I'm passionate about.

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          @Jestocost:

                                          It's a much less polished vibe than the typical brand's online presence, and I mean that in a good way.

                                          Brilliant, we have achieved our goal then  😉 😉

                                          Oh, and @Alex is the boss now  🙂 🙂

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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