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    • P
      prpx
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      yeah it is
      at least it's still in the same time zone  🙂
      hopefully it will arrive in couple of weeks. ups should open a travel agency

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        DrPat
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        While I was at the IH Germany party last weekend I was talking to someone who didn't want to order IH UK because he was afraid of being hit with a customs charge.  I explained to him that it's covered by IH UK and he won't have to pay anything.

        I then searched for this info on the web page and it took me a while to find it (it's in very small font on top of the Shipping Info page https://www.ironhearteu.com/content/shipping-information).

        This is just a heads up to the crew that some people are not aware of the current policy and perhaps there could be a better way to get this info across.

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        • GilesG
          Giles
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          Thank you.  The way we deal with Germany will change very soon….....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • Daniel SanD
            Daniel San
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            @Giles
            what will change ?
            now I’m getting nervous 😬

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            • GilesG
              Giles
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              In essence, since Brexit, we basically make no money from our direct German business, so we are working on an integrated way of making it easier for you to buy from our German retailers….We'd rather you do that and support them, than buy from us and reduce our gross margin.....

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                DrPat
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                @Giles:

                Thank you.  The way we deal with Germany will change very soon….....

                The particular guy I was talking to was Dutch, if that makes a difference.

                In essence, since Brexit, we basically make no money from our direct German business, so we are working on an integrated way of making it easier for you to buy from our German retailers….We'd rather you do that and support them, than buy from us and reduce our gross margin.....

                Will IH UK still be servicing all the other non-German EU countries?

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                • Daniel SanD
                  Daniel San
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                  @Giles
                  😢
                  that’s what I was afraid of .
                  holy shit 🤦‍♂️
                  will the retailers have the complete portfolio?
                  Besides the fact that your service is the best , I buy most of the stuff from you because you’re
                  the only ones selling it …

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                  • todyT
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                    @Giles:

                    Thank you.  The way we deal with Germany will change very soon….....

                    If taken out of context, this could make some of us Krauts pretty nervous  😃

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      How we deal with countries other than Germany will remain as is.  Thanks for the heads up….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • GilesG
                        Giles
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                        Just after Brexit we emailed all existing EU customers telling that we would pick up the tab for any taxes, duties or fees.  We repeated that mailing a few months later (at least once).

                        All new customers in EU, get this pop-up when they hit the site for the first time….

                        We'll look at making the FAQ more prominent, but honestly, I'd have found this info without too much effort and if I failed, I'd have emailed us.

                        We simply cant dumb everything down to the lowest common denominator…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • AlexA
                          Alex
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                          @Daniel:

                          will the retailers have the complete portfolio?
                          Besides the fact that your service is the best , I buy most of the stuff from you because you’re
                          the only ones selling it …

                          We cannot influence what our retailers buy, sadly. There will be things unavailable from them, but we hope over time they can start selling more Iron Heart to fill this gap.

                          Ultimately, the solution that is being rolled out today (deliberately after all the launches this week..) is far from ideal, but the alternative was to stop selling to Germany all together.

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                          • AlexA
                            Alex
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                            The message that should be heading to all our German customer's inboxes shortly:

                            Leider haben wir schlechte Nachrichten für dich den Versand nach Deutschland betreffend. Unglücklicherweise sind die Gebühren, die uns durch Versand, Zoll und Steuern deiner Bestellung entstehen und von uns bisher getragen wurden, so hoch, dass wir zukünftig anders verfahren müssen.

                            Selbstverständlich kannst du weiterhin bei IHUK einkaufen. Allerdings müssen wir leider eine hohe Versandgebühr erheben, um die Kosten, die uns durch Zoll und Steuern entstehen seitdem Großbritannien nicht mehr Mitglied der EU ist, decken zu können. Ab sofort wird daher für Bestellungen im Wert von und über 200,00 € eine Versandgebühr in Höhe von 75,00 € fällig, für Bestellungen im Wert von unter 200,00 € wird eine Versandgebühr von 90,00 € fällig.

                            Um unsere treuen deutschen Kunden dabei zu unterstützen, eine für sie kostengünstigere Alternative zu finden, haben wir auf jeder Produktseite alle Händler in Deutschland aufgelistet, von denen bei einigen ein Link angezeigt wird, der die sofortige Verfügbarkeit des Produkts anzeigt.

                            Wird das Wort ‘verfügbar’ angezeigt, ist mindestens eine Größe des gewünschten Produkts auf der entsprechende Seite vorrätig.

                            Wird das Worter ‘kein link’ angezeigt angezeigt wird, gibt es schlicht keinen Link, das Produkt kann dort aber nichts desto trotz vorrätig sein, du solltest also deren Website besuchen oder dort anrufen, um sicher zu gehen

                            Bitte kaufe vor Ort ein, wann immer es dir möglich ist und unterstütze das großartige Netz deutscher Händler, welches wir in den letzten Jahren aufgebaut haben.

                            The Iron Heart Crew

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                            • Max PowerM
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                              Is only Germany affected by this? Why?

                              @elclintor:

                              > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                DrPat
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                                Yea, this is definitely not cool.

                                Why not just ship the product to Germany and let the customer take care of the import fee, just like you do with every other non-EU country?

                                And what's to stop German customers from sending things to friends in neighbouring countries with free shipping and customs paid by IHUK, and then paying their friend 20 Euros to ship it to them in Germany?

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                                • AlexA
                                  Alex
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                                  Yes, because the fees into Germany are significantly higher. Sadly, it is not just tax and duty that we are charged, there are multiple fixed fees which differ country to country.

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                                  • AlexA
                                    Alex
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                                    @DrPat:

                                    Why not just ship the product to Germany and let the customer take care of the import fee

                                    If people contact us to request this, it is absolutely something we can do. We needed to draw a line somewhere and set a policy that was easy to enforce. In our experience of paying these taxes, duty/tax/other fees on a pair of jeans shipped to Germany adds up to a total of more than €75.

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                                    • AlexA
                                      Alex
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                                      Further to this, the cost to us if we ship something DAP, then the customer refuses delivery once they receive a bill from UPS creates a huge problem both logistically and financially for us.

                                      We have had situations when shipping retailer orders to the EU where a typo was made on the commercial invoice, and the retailer in question was asked for thousands in duty and taxes rather than hundreds. He refused the delivery and it took us about 6 weeks of back and forth to get the goods back to us without us having to pay the discharged duty, even though the package was not delivered

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                                      • endoE
                                        endo
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                                        This is really sad news. Understandable from your side, but not a satisfactory solution from customer perspective.

                                        Despite the 'great network of german retailers' (and them having really cool shops), they are far from offering the full range of IH product, some are not even present with an online shop.

                                        As it seems to be as you say @Alex , it is still hard to understand why this only applies to one of so many EU countries and that no other solution was available.

                                        si tacuisses

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                                        • endoE
                                          endo
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                                          As I understand it, we are now one of very few countries worldwide not being able to order the full range of IH product - well, or only with lots of extra costs.

                                          si tacuisses

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                                          • TwistlockT
                                            Twistlock
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                                            No, really not cool, but fully understand why you have to do this.
                                            Now i can use my remaining loyalty vouchers to reduce the shipping fee…

                                            Gesendet von meinem SNE-LX1 mit Tapatalk

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