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    mclaincausey
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    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

    @Matt:

    @mclaincausey you were 30 minutes from me and didn’t PM!?!?!?

    @Matt I would have but we didn't have any transportation and I didn't realize it was that close–we used a car service with a car seat to get to and from the airport but were pretty much stuck in the plaza for the 48 hours Hattie and I were there since we had no car seat or wheels. Next time--and there will be many next times, as lovers of NM, and now we're in love with Santa Fe in particular!

    Thinking about the Grammys, it shouldn't surprise anyone that they suck. Hollywood wanted the recording industry to help them figure out what stars to put on the Walk of Fame, and we got "The Recording Academy." An "Academy" that was doing fuck all to advance the actual industry of producing music and recordings (I am sure they do some kind of shit outside the Grammys these days--perhaps the pretentious title was aspirational?). I can't think of a more vacuous origin story, and everything about this silly popularity contest makes perfect sense when you think about it in those terms. And if they're a reflection of what's popular, of course they get everything wrong, cos most people have poor taste.

    Same exact story for the Oscars. Is it any wonder that the tastemakers responsible for the garbage that comes out of Hollywood suck at recognizing talent? That was never really the objective in the first place. It was more of an exclusive, masturbatory fraternity (a circle jerk, if you will) of people who thought they were better than everyone else because a lot of people thought that they were.

    With the RR HoF, it's just some corporate record executive's pet project, completely arbitrary and without legitimacy or even solid qualification criteria. To be honest, seeing Sonic Youth inducted there would kind of suck the life out of me a bit, because even though they joined a major record label, they embody the statement "corporate rock sucks." It's bad enough to hear that Kim Gordon played with Nirvana.

    Fuck em all, they don't know what's up and are a reflection of all of the worst things in popular culture, which is probably why we share such vitriol against them. But, again, we're probably better off pretending they don't exist. It's a shame angst is so fun.

    It might be interesting to have awards, rankings, or other popularity contests with a particular point of view or people I respect doing the judging, but at the end of the day, I know what I like and don't need any guidance from the likes of these "academies" and whatever the R&R HoF is (though I do like being exposed to new music here, and there is definitely some good music criticism out there).

    Think it, be it.

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      Matt
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      Joined: 4 Oct 2011

      @mclaincausey just give me enough notice to get a sitter.  You can come down here or we can go to SF.  Both have cool shit.

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        mclaincausey
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        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

        Will do! This was a weird situation because I got in late Friday night and Brandi was working Saturday, then Mother’s Day Sunday. Def next time @Matt !

        Think it, be it.

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          I wish someone would sanction the fucking Russian bots…... 🙂 🙂 🙂

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            Chris
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 28 Jun 2010

            Is MmmBop a masterpiece of modern music that will influence generations and eventually be regarded with the same reverence as Mozart? No, but so what? It's a genuinely good pop song, and that's fine. It's worth mentioning that the Hanson guys are actually reasonably talented, too.

            (Oh, and awards for art of any kind are fatally flawed from inception,  since they depend on the impossible proposition that something emotional and subjective can be measured and the "best" is determinable)

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              mclaincausey
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              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

              "Best" is absolutely determinable… on an individual, subjective level. And then we call it "favorite." I don't know why I find it so maddening to see them conflated. I guess because it just seems so pretentious to impose one's subjective opinion as objective fact, which means anyone who disagrees with them is just wrong.

              I'll never understand the need people have to rank art. One of the things I really like about art is that it is, or IMO should be, above such mundane things. Leave that shit to the wide world of sports. The joy Chris gets out of the Hansons is entirely legitimate, even if I don't share or even understand it.

              When people try to attach "best" and "greatest" to art objectively, it starts in "my dad could beat up your dad" territory for me and can only descend into tribalistic ridiculousness form there. I saw some people on a Grateful Dead subreddit who were butthurt that Bob Weir wasn't listed among Guitar World's inane "Greatest Rhythm Guitarists of All Time" fan poll. So they started a campaign to vote Bob Weir into contention on this absolutely meaningless poll. The comments were pathetic, saying he was "hands down" the greatest rhythm guitarist ever (my personal opinion is that he wasn't even the best rhythm guitarist in the Grateful Dead). Why they needed this validation is beyond me, but I was amazed that anyone would think that Weir was "better" on rhythm guitar than some of the luminaries listed like Chuck Berry, Jim Hall, Jimi Hendrix, James Hetfield, Alex Lifeson, Johnny Marr, Jimmy Page, Prince, Tony Rice, Keith Richards… Really? Does he need to be for you to enjoy the music? Can't he just be the "best" rhythm guitarist for the moment you are enjoying?

              Note: you will see some lead guitarists above, and I am speaking to the craft of playing rhythm guitar, not the role–people like Lifeson, Hendrix, Hall, and Page count because there was no other guitarist and they had to play rhythm and lead, and I only mention Garcia because he to my ear is a better accompanist than Weir on guitar.

              Think it, be it.

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                Jett129
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                Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                You reminded of an interview that Paul McCartney once did where he was asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world? To which he replied…He’s not even the best drummer in The Beatles.

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                  mclaincausey
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                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                  Touche, @Jett129 , I may have had that in the back of my head. Some prodigious assholes in the Beatles 😃

                  Unpopular/hot take: I like George more than Paul and John and wish he'd had more creative output during his time with the Beatles… Perhaps it took him too long to find his voice, or perhaps his personality was simply domineered by them. But he wrote some of my favorite Beatles tunes and has made great music thereafter.

                  Think it, be it.

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                    Jett129
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                    Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                    I’m with you and like Paul the least. Ironically one of my wife’s childhood friends is currently married to Paul. She’s met him,and couldn’t say enough nice things about him. John was my favorite.

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                      sethatwork
                      Joined: 19 Oct 2020

                      Didn’t know where else to post this other than rants, but it irks me when someone blatantly copies & infringes clothing. Got this as an ad on Instagram, and down to the lot # it’s a bootleg/duplicate/fake

                      https://www.instagram.com/p/Cdr2O9du_o0/?igshid=NWRhNmQxMjQ=

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                        goosehd
                        Mod Squad
                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        @Giles @Alex @Madame Buttonfly See Above ^^^^^^^

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          goosehd
                          Mod Squad
                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                          Good reporting Seth

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            sethatwork
                            Joined: 19 Oct 2020

                            @goosehd:

                            Good reporting Seth

                            The dude replied to me in a DM saying I’m the second person to notice the rip, but it didn’t make much sense with his explanation

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                            last edited by 21 May 2022, 19:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              They look like shit - most IH copies do….

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                Matt
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                                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                I support women, #metoo (not Amber Heard), I have two daughters and an amazing wife whom I respect. I thoroughly enjoy seeing women wearing the shit out of IH gear on the forum and on the JP IG feeds.

                                That said, I miss the old sexy green M&M…

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                                • steelworkerS
                                  steelworker
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                                  Joined: 16 Apr 2014

                                  new one has shite legs

                                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                  Well, I have others.

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                                  • neph93N
                                    neph93
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                                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                    @steelworker:

                                    new one has shite legs

                                    Godammit, she doesn’t exist for your pleasure. She exists to make Tucker Carlson MAD.

                                    https://www.indy100.com/news/tucker-carlson-mms-sexy-boots

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                                    • Virginia Woolf
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                                      Matt
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                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                      I take back everything.  New green is fine.

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                                        popvulture
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                                        Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                                        @neph93:

                                        She exists to make Tucker Carlson MAD.

                                        The only reason anyone should exist tbh 😎

                                        WTB
                                        IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                        Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                          Chris
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                          I hate this state so much sometimes.

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