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    • tvenutoT
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      The NoMad's Montauk Cocktail

      6 dashes Peychaud's bitters
      1/4 ounce Punt e Mes
      3/4 ounce sweet vermouth, preferably Carpano Antica
      3/4 ounce blanc vermouth, preferably Dolin
      1 ounce navy strength gin, preferably Hayman's Royal Dock
      Garnish: lemon twist

      I picked up the bottle of Punt E Mes and it resulted in these two cocktails.  I didn't use a navy strength gin because I usually only have 2 or 3 gins on the bar.  I just can't convince myself I need more than that (unlike rum or whiskey).  This one could definitely benefit from a stronger base spirit, but there's a lot going on and I do like the drink.  3 different vermouths!

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      • tvenutoT
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        Now trying a Popinjay:
        1oz Cognac
        1oz Punt E Mes
        1oz Cynar

        I'm using Cynar 70, which is what I bought on accident, and happens to be higher alcohol, bitter, and flavor.  Basically less water.

        A fine drink.  A tad bitter (probably due to the 70), but it's one where the Cognac actually works well (I don't often find a drink improved by subbing cognac for rye).

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        • DishelveledD
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          @Filthy:

          I ordered some Monte Cristo number 4's per the recommendation of my esteemed colleague @Dishelveled [emoji16]

          Rad, Mike–Happy to help! Let me know how easy the process went once they arrive. Its been grip since I last ordered and I'm due to re-up. Their site mentioned shipping delays due to CV-19 when I checked some months back.

          Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

          Instagram: defy_delphi

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          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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            Will do  😎

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            • tvenutoT
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              Ok @Filthy here's my recommendation.  For me, the right drink also depends on the weather when smoking (since I assume you'll be outside).  My main recommendation is going to be the Manhattan, but if it's blisteringly hot where you are, I'm going to throw out a highball alternative.

              Main recommendation is the classic Manhattan (booze recommendations follow)
              2 oz Rye
              1 oz red vermouth
              1-2 dash bitters
              Stir all with ice until very cold, then strain into whatever glass you prefer.  I'm not fussy with the glassware and usually drink out of an old fashioned (rocks) glass because it's less likely to be knocked over by kids or tipsy me.  And the straining can literally be a butter knife holding back the ice, you really need no specialized equipment for this.

              For the rye, I like a spicy high-ish proof rye for whiskey cocktails.  These should be pretty widely available.  Try to find Rittenhouse bottled in bond, which can be found for very cheap:

              Pikesville 110 is another good option, it's a tad more expensive:

              Knob Creek Rye is another fine 100 proof choice as a back-up if you can't find the others.

              For the red vermouth, my main recommendation is Carpano Antica.  I hate to saddle you with a giant bottle of vermouth, and it's not the cheapest, but not only do I think it makes a great Manhattan in general, I think it'll pair well with the cigar.  Many people describe a vanilla character with the cigar, and this vermouth has vanilla:

              Second choice is Cocchi Vermouth di Torino.  To be honest this is a very close second as far as Manhattans go in general, but it lacks the vanilla notes of Antica.  A damn fine vermouth, though, if you can't find or don't want to splurge on the Antica:

              As a back-up every liquor store on the planet carries Martini & Rossi "Rosso" vermouth.  I think you lose something compared to the other two, but it'll make a perfectly fine Manhattan and any Manhattan is better than no Manhattan at all.

              For the bitters, I use Angostura and I've never found the need to switch it up (aside from specialty bitters like orange etc.).  Plus via some sorcery my bottle appears to be infinite so I don't see that changing.  Every liquor store on the planet also carries this:

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              • tvenutoT
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                I think the Manhattan is a classic cigar cocktail, and will go with your cubano nicely.  However, if the day is oppressively hot, a highball is what you need to cool things off.  I think rum is a natural choice, and I like this riff on the dark and stormy using a lighter rum that won't have that sticky molasses thing going on like a true "dark" rum.  Cuban rums are similar in style to the Puerto Rican rums we have, but I'm going to split the difference with something with a bit more character.

                "Light and Stormy"
                1.5 oz low age rum
                0.5 oz lime juice (like 1/2 of a lime)
                4-5 oz ginger beer

                Fill a collins glass (or something smaller than a pint glass) with ice, then pour ingredients into the glass and give a brief stir.

                For the rum, I recommend Plantation 5 year:

                Another great choice is the slightly sweeter El Dorado 5 year:

                As a back-up most places carry Mount Gay Eclipse (get the gold one, not the silver or the one labeled "black")

                For the ginger beer, there are a million options and I have no idea what you'll have access to locally.  I generally try and find one that's not ridiculously sweet, but it's really just a matter of taste.  I think Reeds "Extra Ginger" one is good.  And I assume Fever Tree's version is good, although I don't think I've actually had it.

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                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                  Holy crap @tvenuto thanks a lot!!! I am completely amazed. I'll let you know when I go to the liquor store 😃

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                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                    Looks like all I need are limes  🙂

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                    • GilesG
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                      Present from @Madame Buttonfly

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                        That's super awesome Giles 😃

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          I was looking up St. Giles to see what his patronage was:
                          beggars; blacksmiths; breast cancer; breast feeding; cancer patients; disabled people; Edinburgh (Scotland); epilepsy; noctiphobics; forests; hermits; horses; lepers; mental illness; outcasts; poor people; rams; spur makers; sterility

                          The outcasts and mental illness resonated, but I was disappointed not to see denim addiction (perhaps this falls under mental illness…) 😃

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • GilesG
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                            😉

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                              @tvenuto the hooch has arrived  🙂

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                              • dinobarnesberlinD
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                                @Giles:

                                Present from @Madame Buttonfly

                                Looks like she knows how to give good gifts 😉

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                                • tvenutoT
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                                  @Filthy sorry for the radio silence but I was away this past week an off the internet.  Looks like you're well stocked let me know how things turn out!

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                                  • JoberwockyJ
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                                    I just bought some EH Taylor, gonna break it open later, pretty excited__

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                                    • tvenutoT
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                                      @Joberwocky Very nice.  If I had to pick an archetypal bourbon to seal in a time capsule or something, it would be that very bourbon.

                                      Notice it's been a few days, any thoughts?

                                      For my part I took a trip down to Catoctin Creek to snag two bottles of Ragnarok Rye, a GWAR collaboration.  It's a young rye aged in new white oak with sugar maple and cherrywood staves.

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                                      • J
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                                        If I had to pick a Bourbon to seal in  a time capsule it would probably be Blantons.

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                                        • JoberwockyJ
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                                          @tvenuto:

                                          @Joberwocky Very nice.  If I had to pick an archetypal bourbon to seal in a time capsule or something, it would be that very bourbon.

                                          Notice it's been a few days, any thoughts?

                                          I've had two glasses now and it was for sure great bang for the buck.  Super drinkable.  I had just finished a bottle of Russell 10 prior to buying it and prefer the Taylor.  I'd been on such a mean Barrell streak beforehand it's a good change of taste.

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                                          • chrisjohnnickC
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                                            Making my go-to house special right now.

                                            2oz Bourbon (I prefer Four Roses for this drink)
                                            1 oz O3 orange liquer (If you can find it. Basically Cointreau on a budget)
                                            1/2-3/4 oz lime juice

                                            Shake it all up with plenty of ice, and pour into a cocktail glass.

                                            Wants List:
                                            IHSH-20-Red, XL
                                            IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                                            IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                                            IHSW-45 Black, M
                                            IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                                            IH-777S-SB size 32
                                            IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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