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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

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    • J
      Jett129
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      For the longest time Levis were 14.75 ounces,and over time that number kept dropping,and you were lucky to get a pair around 13OZ. So one day I goggled Heavyweight Denim,and here we are.

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      • vaquero357V
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        …@Jett129 that's exactly what I had found! They were getting whimpier and whimpier. Found IH and it was 'see ya' later'!

        ...@neph93 so if I were looking for a 'summer jean' weight would you steer me towards the 21oz before the 14oz? Doesn't seem right but if the weave is tight and doesn't breath in the 14oz weight I guess it makes sense. :o

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          I wear my 21OZ all Summer in NYC. Took a little getting used to,but when it’s one of those hot fucking muggy days, no matter what you’re wearing you’re going to be uncomfortable. On the bike no matter how hot it is once you’re moving you’re fine.

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          • sethatworkS
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            @vaquero357:

            …@Jett129 that's exactly what I had found! They were getting whimpier and whimpier. Found IH and it was 'see ya' later'!

            ...@neph93 so if I were looking for a 'summer jean' weight would you steer me towards the 21oz before the 14oz? Doesn't seem right but if the weave is tight and doesn't breath in the 14oz weight I guess it makes sense. :o

            Going from PBJ's last summer to IH 21oz this summer, the IH's definitely breathe more, and so far I have been able to wear them every day this muggy/hot spring so far, highest temp being about 87 with high humidity.

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            • neph93N
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              I was shopping with my son the other day and fingered a pair og 501’s. They were felt lighter than the shirt I was wearing….

              @vaquero357 The 14oz is the only IH core denim I’ve never owned, so I can only help you with half the equation. While 21oz denim will never be linen, there is no doubt the airy weave makes them viable summer wear.

              I suspect the tighter weave of the 142 denim does indeed make them sticky, but the lighter weight should mitigate that a little.

              I’ll likely be sticking to 21oz during the summer, as per usual.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • GilesG
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                @vaquero357:

                what do you think/know are the weight in ounces that the typical Levi's jeans would be?

                I move the question here as the "Ask Giles Anything" thread is more for asking me things that perhaps only I can answer…....

                That said, about 13oz....

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • ChapC
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                  @neph93:

                  I was shopping with my son the other day and fingered a pair og 501’s. They were felt lighter than the shirt I was wearing….

                  @vaquero357 The 14oz is the only IH core denim I’ve never owned, so I can only help you with half the equation. While 21oz denim will never be linen, there is no doubt the airy weave makes them viable summer wear.

                  I suspect the tighter weave of the 142 denim does indeed make them sticky, but the lighter weight should mitigate that a little.

                  I’ll likely be sticking to 21oz during the summer, as per usual.

                  I have both weights in the 634 cut. As mentioned above, the 14 oz has a tighter weave. Once broken in there is no huge difference in higher temperatures to the 21oz. For me more important is the cut, I can't wear slim jeans when it's getting hot.

                  God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    I only have the 14oz OD and 18oz vintage today, and would call the 14OD a much better summer jean than the 21, though the latter is definitely also viable from both a climate and a "feel" perspective. "Climate" meaning your junk staying cooler and "feel" meaning that when it gets warm lighter fabrics just "feel" right irrespective of climate. YMMV.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • ChrisC
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                      I'll chime in on the wearablity of the 21oz in warmer weather; I've worn a pair of the original 634S through multiple Texas summers and wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

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                        Is the IHSH-61 made of the same sateen as the M65?

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                        • vaquero357V
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                          …the verdict is in, I'm gonna pop this Friday for a pair of the IH-888s-142 14oz Indigo's. 😎 They look great in the photo's and I think I'll ride all through the 'hot summer in the city' in these baby's. 😛

                          ...might snag a pair of Khaki Chino's in the 888 cut also. Set for the summer. 😉

                          ...thanks everyone! 🙂

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                          • GilesG
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                            @sabergirl:

                            Is the IHSH-61 made of the same sateen as the M65?

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                            Don't think so….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Cool. Thanks

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                              • PalmerP
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                                It's been getting hot here and I switched to my 14oz Iron Hearts today. Maybe it's just me but I definitely feel like the 14oz denims are much better in the heat than the 21oz. The 18oz vintage is good in the heat too. IMO the best hot weather Iron Heart denim is the extinct 16oz but the 14 is a close second.

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                                • vaquero357V
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                                  …I chickened out on the 14oz'ers. :o My fidelity to the XHS stands! 😎 I bought a pair of the IH-727 Kahki Chinos, those along with my 502 cargos, 602 work pants and 888 ducks makes me believe I've got plenty of hot weather pants to wear. ::)

                                  ...There's only 3 months of heat a year in this neck of the woods anyway so why muck it up in the denim dept... Stay True To Your School!:D

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @vaquero357:

                                    …There's only 3 months of heat a year in this neck of the woods anyway so why muck it up in the denim dept... Stay True To Your School!:D

                                    Less heat than that up my way but I share your sentiments.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • vaquero357V
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                                      …that's a small window of warmth and sun @neph93! ??? Hard to keep the vitamin D levels up! 😃

                                      …serious Iron Heart country! 🙂

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                                      • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                        I just saw these and I am wondering how this is possible? How can they have a felled outseam and selvedge sewn flat on the inside?
                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/CPlXjL1jQac/?utm_medium=copy_link

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          This help?

                                          I prefer the traditional outseam and the train track fades it renders personally; that has never been a point of failure in jeans construction to me so I am skeptical that I would need felled outseams and a vanity selvedge detail.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                            The OP told me they are Freenote. I just thought it is interesting. I have never seen it before. It would be cool on the overallls, is why I am so interested in it.

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